Thursday, 2015-01-15

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spectromasawesome, kind of02:37
spectromasoh three hours late02:38
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AutoStaticfalktx: receiving job offers? That's great!13:58
falktxAutoStatic: freelance stuff is not exactly a job offer, but can't complain if it's about linux13:59
AutoStaticAh freelance, well, like you said, it's Linux related. No offers from ROLI yet? ;)14:00
falktxjuce/tracktion is ROLI14:00
AutoStaticAaaaahhhhhh, didn't know that :)14:01
falktxROLI bought juce14:01
falktxand tracktion is made with juce14:01
AutoStaticYeah I know, that's why I asked14:01
falktxthey share the main author14:01
AutoStaticBut I didn't know ROLI also owned Tracktion14:01
falktxwell, kinda14:02
falktxit's all related14:02
AutoStaticOk14:02
AutoStaticI should try creating something with Tracktion14:02
AutoStaticrecently I finally got it to accept my key14:02
AutoStaticDidn't work for months14:03
falktxmy key will never be accepted, it has non-characters14:03
falktxsomehow the app thinks they are invalid...14:03
falktxregistering offline works though14:03
ChaosFan_by ROLI do you mean the company building the seaboard?14:10
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falktx.g roli bought juce framework14:11
theloniusfalktx: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/11/roli-makers-seaboard-instrument-just-bought-leading-c-audio-framework/14:11
LAbotTitle: ROLI, Makers of Seaboard Instrument, Just Bought The Leading C++ Audio Framework - Create Digital Music (at createdigitalmusic.com)14:11
falktxChaosFan_: I guess so :)14:11
ChaosFan_oh, ok14:12
ChaosFan_didn't know they were into software that much14:12
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ChaosFan_but that seaboard plays awesomely - just a bit pricey for me (as I'm a hobbyist, so I have to justify investments into instruments the same as investments into toys, more or less)14:13
falktxI'm not a pro myself either14:15
ChaosFan_got to play one at a music expo (musikmesse frankfurt). I kind of really want one... it's awesome when you as a guitarist sitting at a keyboard - out of habit - start doing a vibrato motion with you finger when playing a note - and the keyboard actually producing a vibrato ;)14:18
falktxlater14:25
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alex-EUhi thelonius15:55
theloniusHi alex-EU!15:55
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ungovHello, I just installed KXstudio and now I don't get any audio out16:22
ungov    of my system. Any troubleshoot ideas?16:22
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alex-EUJackWinter: I'm such a dumb user. I've just figured out i can run the wineserver from a cli, and get it going. Then start my apps.18:28
alex-EUJackWinter: That's correct, yes?18:28
alex-EUJackWinter: By the way i found deb packages for winestaging. It's installed separately from wine, meaning i can run either/or.18:29
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JackWinteralex-EU: i think so, the thing that ties a wineserver to the client processes is the wineprefix18:36
JackWinteralex-EU: in the end it seems to turn up that it doesn't really help me, but hopefully it helps you with loading using samples?18:37
alex-EUJackWinter: i'm testing that now.18:37
JackWinterwhat really changed things for me, was to move the prj (media) to a disk that isn't used for anything else, and in the case of running at 64 samples to up the anticipative processing to 300-400ms18:38
alex-EUJackWinter:  this particular wine is run from /opt/wine-staging/bin/wine6418:39
alex-EUJackWinter: right.18:39
JackWinteryes, i think that's what they do18:39
JackWinterbut it seems like i'm really rock solid in reaper/wine down to 64 samples buffer now.  so far i've only tested with one recarmed track no idea how it behaves with more18:40
alex-EUJackWinter: I'm about to run carla using wine-staging at 1/4 the latency of before. I can upe if need be.18:43
alex-EUJackWinter: With the same large project. May as well go in hammering from the start.18:44
alex-EUJackWinter: Took a bit of figuring out, but i got wineasio registered as well.18:44
alex-EUJackWinter: Which is cool.18:45
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JackWinterwineprefix= regsvr32 wineasio for 32bit and wineprefix= wine64 regsvr32 wineasio for 64b18:46
alex-EUJackWinter: yep, did that.18:47
alex-EUJackWinter: You're way ahead of me on the wine stuff. I have to think it through a bit. :)18:47
JackWinterhopefully one day i'll get it finished for inclusion in wine, and even more important accepted :)18:48
alex-EUJackWinter: Good luck. :)18:50
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JackWinteralex-EU: you too :)19:16
alex-EUJackWinter: Well, that didn't work. Carla insisted on starting the /usr/bin/wineserver, no matter how many CLi options i threw at it. However, our old friend the standalo0ne K instance had no problem with it.19:36
falktxyou need to set the path before starting carla19:37
falktxexport PATH=/opt/wine-staging/bin:$PATH19:37
alex-EUfalktx: aah, ok. I'm using the wrong path line. back in a minute.19:38
alex-EUfalktx: that worked, loading properly now. Thanks.19:41
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daeavelwynhi here21:12
falktxhi21:12
daeavelwyncan I install kxstudio on a UEFI laptop ?21:12
falktxerrm, maybe...21:13
falktxthe process is the same as installing ubuntu21:13
falktxthat's all I can say really...21:13
* falktx has no UEFI experience21:13
daeavelwynfalktx: hey what's up guy ? :)21:13
daeavelwynfalktx: yes, i succeed in installing, but can't boot on21:14
falktx:)21:14
daeavelwyni'm actually using the live usb :-)21:14
daeavelwynso, to bbe more precise21:14
daeavelwynhave change some stuff regarding boot options from the original ubuntu 14.04 ?21:14
daeavelwynhave you*21:15
falktxno21:15
falktxexcept for the lowlatency kernel21:15
falktxthe config is the same except for high-freq timer21:15
daeavelwynok, i've found documentation here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI21:17
LAbotTitle: UEFI - Community Help Wiki (at help.ubuntu.com)21:17
daeavelwyndo you think I can use them safely ?21:17
daeavelwynwith kxstudio live usb ?21:17
falktxyou can try...21:20
daeavelwynok21:21
daeavelwyni gonna try :)21:21
daeavelwynstart to pray :p21:21
falktxsorry I can't help much. it's not an area I ever had to try yet21:21
falktxs/not//21:22
daeavelwynfalktx: nevermind, i gonna test and let you know :)21:24
daeavelwynI just asked in case you already encounter the problem ;)21:24
alex-EUfalktx: did you ever do a kxstudio low latency kernel for debian?21:29
alex-EUfalktx: with the HF timer option?21:29
falktxno21:30
falktxI don't do kernels21:30
falktxthe lowlatency one is done by canonical/ubuntustudio21:30
alex-EUfalktx: right.21:30
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ollnmoorning21:35
ollnanyone?21:35
falktxoh not you21:35
ollnwhat?21:35
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falktxolln: goodbye :)21:36
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falktxfuck that guy, such a time waster21:36
daeavelwynfalktx: lol21:37
daeavelwynwho is it ?21:37
daeavelwynwho is he* ?21:37
falktxdaeavelwyn: let me get a paste of the talk we just had in #jack21:37
daeavelwynyeah, come on :)21:38
falktxdaeavelwyn: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Paste/repo/CYzih21:38
falktxdaeavelwyn: this was not the first incident. he used to login as reen-1 and ask about the same things21:45
falktxmentioning things like "audio energy" giving a better sound21:46
daeavelwynok....I just can agree, this guy is a waste of time...21:46
falktxor how we need hi-res flac files21:46
daeavelwynlool21:46
daeavelwynat least he is quite funny :)21:46
falktxif he's not a troll, he's very stupid21:46
falktxthose 2 things are contageous21:46
daeavelwynperhaps is he just young ?21:46
falktxor he's the actual developer of Petrov res21:46
falktxanyway, I hope I don't see him again here21:47
falktxhe already changed nicks once. and I banned the old one. so he might come back21:47
daeavelwynIf he is really stuppid, i'm not sure you wille never se him again :-/21:47
daeavelwynyes, that the problem with stupid people21:47
daeavelwynthey don't understand they are stupid :p21:48
* daeavelwyn pray for the reboot to be good !21:51
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spectromashe got banned from #funtoo the other day, called alsa devs and various other groups gay22:18
spectromasI think he's losing the plot22:18
holsteinwow22:18
holsteinthats just awful22:18
holsteinits quite a mess.. i must say, the entire attitude like that is burning me out22:19
holsteinfolks volunteering time, and others not treating it as such..22:19
holsteinhow in the world can one, in a normal frame of mind, call a volunteer names like that ;)22:19
spectromasI don't get it, someone spent hours with him the day before helping him get OSS working, despite the fact that he isn't using funtoo, and then that22:20
holsteinits alsa.. the code is right there.. if you dont want "the gays" working on the code for you, take it!, you ,know! ?22:20
holsteinits odd22:20
spectromasI think he's even dabled in BSD because they were targets in the abuse too22:20
spectromasI can understand trolls to a degree but being a troll AND someone who wants help at the same time...?22:22
holsteinhehe22:22
holsteinthats me! ;P22:22
spectromashaha22:23
spectromashe kept saying 'might as well use windows XP' so with a bit of luck he's given up on his hardened kernel and gone to that22:24
holsteinyeah, i dont like that threatening angle22:24
holsteinlike "i'll just go back to windows if you cant get this right!".. dont let the door knob hit you..22:24
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holsteinif one cant join the community, i think they really miss out on what its all about22:25
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daeavelwynhoestly guys, I think it's just a young boy boring with is live ;-) ....22:31
daeavelwynbut he has to learn a bit more about live of course...22:31
daeavelwyns/hoestly/honestly/22:32
daeavelwyns/is/his/22:32
daeavelwyndamned, this new keyboard doesn't fit my fingers !!!!22:32
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falktxdaeavelwyn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqjF7HKSaaI :)22:34
LAbotTitle: The fingers you have used to dial are too fat - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)22:34
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daeavelwyndamned, open source community isn't really friend with uefi23:09
daeavelwynhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Criticism23:09
daeavelwynI think I gonna try to use CSM mode if I can23:09
daeavelwynactually, using UEFI require I disabled stuff in its interfaces such as secure boot and fast boot23:09
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daeavelwynthen I have to create a 200MB FAT32 partition at the begining of the hardrive23:09
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LAbotTitle: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)23:09
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daeavelwynand flag it as a boot partition23:09
daeavelwyn-_- ....23:09
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