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| rgareus | is there a LV2 host that supports the displayPriority port property? | 16:54 |
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| falktx | there will be soon | 17:04 |
| falktx | we're going to use it for mod | 17:04 |
| falktx | carla should do that too, sometime soon before 2.0 is finalized | 17:05 |
| falktx | rgareus: if you add that property to your plugins, that will be a nice start | 17:05 |
| rgareus | falktx: the setBfree leslie had it for years | 17:08 |
| rgareus | the version in debian/stable already features it. | 17:08 |
| rgareus | oldstable, even :) | 17:08 |
| rgareus | the issue I'm trying to address: I keep adding ports. some of the newer/later ones however should be listed first | 17:39 |
| falktx | so you think hosts should be ignoring indexes? | 17:39 |
| rgareus | while most hosts only check for lv2:symbol, I currently also keep lv2:index, | 17:40 |
| falktx | seems doable to in carla | 17:40 |
| falktx | I don't keep the real lv2 index, I have an internal index in order to have audio / control buffers separate | 17:40 |
| rgareus | the alternative would be to re-order port lv2:index . I think displayPriority is really only intended for "window is too small" | 17:41 |
| rgareus | falktx: makes sense. I think it was only nedko's old LV2 host that preferred displayPriority over lv2:symbol | 17:41 |
| rgareus | falktx: makes sense. I think it was only nedko's old LV2 host that preferred lv2:index over lv2:symbol | 17:42 |
| rgareus | ardour (and maybe also jalv?) tries to be smart and auto-groups ports by lv:name (using some gtk similarity match) | 17:43 |
| HarryHaaren | aren't there port groups for that? | 17:44 |
| HarryHaaren | (assuming plugin devs actually group the ports) | 17:45 |
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| rgareus | yes, port-groups take rank | 18:09 |
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| ssj71 | can anybody read this? https://mountainbikesandtrombones.blogspot.com/b/post-preview?token=Mx0o3E0BAAA.wPrFdI1jAqMxD07gcQjZ7A.RbskwmrdX4YCkWJf9iZcTw&postId=3809250968421114787&type=POST | 22:29 |
| HarryHaaren | ssj71, its a "preview" but yes | 22:31 |
| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: ok, I'd like someone to review it before it goes live | 22:32 |
| ssj71 | Its a bit lengthy though | 22:32 |
| * HarryHaaren notes links are broken in blogger.com previews, so i can't check them | 22:32 | |
| ssj71 | ah | 22:32 |
| HarryHaaren | no problem though - i'm reading the content now | 22:32 |
| ssj71 | I guess I could post it and just repost if anything is found | 22:33 |
| HarryHaaren | nah don worry, gimme a few mins to read | 22:33 |
| HarryHaaren | :) | 22:33 |
| HarryHaaren | ssj71, "event port" is a double term.. because there is a port type called an "event" port | 22:35 |
| HarryHaaren | (before Atom came along, and saved the day, Event ports were used for MIDI messages | 22:35 |
| HarryHaaren | ) | 22:35 |
| HarryHaaren | in the section "Now we need a port for this parameter", i suggest removing references to Event based port | 22:36 |
| HarryHaaren | and just jump to "we use an Atom port" or something to that effect? | 22:36 |
| HarryHaaren | so far so good though.. | 22:36 |
| ssj71 | IIUC the atom port is still an event port as atoms are event based opposed to a sampled signal | 22:37 |
| HarryHaaren | yes true | 22:37 |
| ssj71 | its just not the same as the legacy event port | 22:37 |
| HarryHaaren | exactly.. which might lead to confusion? | 22:37 |
| HarryHaaren | ideally run the article by drobilla.. he's the guy who really gets this, and knows whats planned too | 22:39 |
| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: I've edited it, If you reload the page does it update or do you need a new URL? | 22:39 |
| HarryHaaren | i think a new url, based on the big hash in the preview urls | 22:40 |
| ssj71 | could be, when I reloaded it did update | 22:40 |
| HarryHaaren | oh ok, leme try | 22:40 |
| ssj71 | https://mountainbikesandtrombones.blogspot.com/b/post-preview?token=1PAy3E0BAAA.wPrFdI1jAqMxD07gcQjZ7A.hOoDP2nntKgZLlAOG___ng&postId=3809250968421114787&type=POST | 22:40 |
| ssj71 | just in case | 22:40 |
| HarryHaaren | yep updated on old url | 22:41 |
| HarryHaaren | reads better, good stuff | 22:41 |
| ssj71 | sweet. Thanks for taking the time, let me know whatever thoughts you have | 22:42 |
| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: has drobilla been around today? | 22:42 |
| HarryHaaren | haven't seen him | 22:42 |
| HarryHaaren | oh wait, he timed out at like 15:00, so 8 hours ago | 22:43 |
| HarryHaaren | yes | 22:43 |
| HarryHaaren | in answer to your question :) | 22:43 |
| HarryHaaren | ssj71, is there a way you can <code> tag the TTL and code? Would make it easier to read IMO | 22:44 |
| HarryHaaren | or <pre> boxes would be good? | 22:44 |
| HarryHaaren | example <pre> boxes as on OpenAV site: http://openavproductions.com/real-time-latency-tuning/ | 22:44 |
| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: I am using <code> | 22:45 |
| HarryHaaren | oh ok, <pre> ? | 22:45 |
| HarryHaaren | that makes the little copy-paste boxes IIRC, which can be nice for people looking to snippet your code and steal it ;) | 22:45 |
| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: in addition to <code> or as substitute? | 22:45 |
| HarryHaaren | addition i guess | 22:46 |
| HarryHaaren | <pre> <code> code here </code> </pre> | 22:46 |
| HarryHaaren | suggestion: "File IO is NEVER realtime safe" -> "File I/O is NOT realtime safe" | 22:46 |
| HarryHaaren | it *can* be RT safe, if the file is already in cache, and OS can read it directly from memory (aka, mmap() file access) | 22:47 |
| HarryHaaren | its a detail - for the sake of this guide I guess it don't matter | 22:47 |
| HarryHaaren | NEVER is stronger than NOT i guess.. but slightly misleading too | 22:48 |
| HarryHaaren | in a good way :D | 22:48 |
| HarryHaaren | suggestion: skip the Xrun explaination, just link RT-101 as you have. Mentioning threads here will probably scare people more than anything | 22:49 |
| * HarryHaaren apologizes to ssj71, i seem to be quite a picky proof-reader | 22:51 | |
| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: unfortunately its somewhat germane to the topic of worker extension. let me look at it | 22:51 |
| ssj71 | I'm still working on the <pre>s :) | 22:51 |
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| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: got the <pre> tags in but it didn't seem to make a difference. I think I need a different blogger template or whatever, | 22:54 |
| ssj71 | I don | 22:54 |
| ssj71 | t't really enjoy messing with css and that sort of stuff | 22:54 |
| HarryHaaren | don't stress the <pres> | 22:54 |
| ssj71 | well its been a source of dissatisfaction for me with my blog for a while. But its also something I don't want to spend time on | 22:56 |
| HarryHaaren | fair enough i think | 22:57 |
| HarryHaaren | do you play trombone? Just reading the url now | 22:57 |
| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: yep. Thats the only thing I gig on really | 22:58 |
| HarryHaaren | oh cool, must ask you for some (easy) fun funky tunes, i'm in the (slow) process of learning trumpet :) | 22:58 |
| HarryHaaren | nice - down at the end now | 23:00 |
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| HarryHaaren | hey grejppi_ | 23:07 |
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| grejppi | HarryHaaren: hey there | 23:15 |
| HarryHaaren | hey hey, how are you? | 23:15 |
| grejppi | HarryHaaren: I guess I'm fine, what's up? | 23:16 |
| HarryHaaren | just chatting about all things LV2 here - ssj71 wrote a tutorial/article for Lv2 Atoms, was proof-reading that | 23:17 |
| HarryHaaren | was reading that, done now. | 23:17 |
| HarryHaaren | grejppi, how are your projects coming along? | 23:17 |
| grejppi | HarryHaaren: sluggish | 23:18 |
| grejppi | well, I had a huuge load of assignments to do by the end of last month so I'm taking a break first | 23:20 |
| HarryHaaren | good - that's part of it :) | 23:21 |
| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: sorry I got pulled into a meeting there. I'll look at the thread discussion and see if I can make it more accessible | 23:24 |
| HarryHaaren | ssj71, all good, sure. | 23:24 |
| HarryHaaren | break it "out" of the main article as much as you can i'd say - perhaps even a different post | 23:25 |
| * HarryHaaren thinks its an interesting topic, might do an LV2 threading code tutorial | 23:25 | |
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| ssj71 | HarryHaaren: I've tried to remove the discussion about thread. There are still a couple places I didn't see a good way around it, but I hopefully expained it well | 23:58 |
| ssj71 | don't feel bad if you have additional criticism. Its all been constructive. | 23:59 |
| HarryHaaren | ssj71, ill reload and re-read the threading bits | 23:59 |
| ssj71 | thx | 23:59 |
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