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| falktx | drobilla: hey, you awake :) | 17:17 |
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| drobilla | falktx: mmhmm | 17:20 |
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| drobilla | falktx: I have a preliminary implementation of server-side load, but haven't tested it yet | 17:29 |
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| falktx | I'll be happy to test it :) | 17:29 |
| drobilla | falktx: Need to add a command line switch for server side to the ingen client or something... | 17:29 |
| falktx | if it doesn't work, you'll know | 17:30 |
| drobilla | Not sure how to deal with this gracefully, for the GUI client some notion of "is this server on the same machine" is necessary | 17:30 |
| drobilla | But I'll graft on some kludgey switch for now so it's at least possible to do either manually | 17:30 |
| falktx | drobilla: any comment about the adding/removing bundles to ingen server-side? | 17:30 |
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| drobilla | falktx: Tricky. Not sure how to cram that in the protocol | 17:31 |
| falktx | drobilla: I though about a put /world atom:path | 17:31 |
| drobilla | move to special trash or some such, or maybe. I forget the use case. | 17:32 |
| falktx | one usecase is installing/removing plugins from MOD | 17:32 |
| falktx | saving a new graph also creates a new plugin, which ingen doesn't know about for some reason... | 17:33 |
| drobilla | Yeah, treating graphs as 'plugins' is currently pretty sketchy in general (and it's really not the best idea to nest ingens, though it'll work, it's inefficient and you can't control the sub one normally) | 17:36 |
| drobilla | Removing is hard because if it's currently instantiated, well... | 17:36 |
| drobilla | It'll probably be fine since it's already loaded, but questionable | 17:37 |
| drobilla | A hard "fuck it, refresh everything" is probably easier but even more questionable | 17:37 |
| drobilla | I'll have to think about how to cram such commandey things into the quasi-RESTful protocol... | 17:38 |
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| falktx | drobilla: please don't think too much. we kinda need this in the short-term :) | 17:40 |
| falktx | drobilla: a "reload-everything" could work in the mean time | 17:41 |
| falktx | I'd say adding is more important, since installed plugins need to be actually loaded | 17:41 |
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| falktx | if we remove plugins and ingen doesn't know it won't hurt much | 17:45 |
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| drobilla | You and a bunch of other people, who happen to be paying me :P | 17:51 |
| drobilla | I can probably add something, but if you need a kludge, simply making BlockFactory::plugins() reload regardless will find new things whenever you GET ingen:/plugins | 17:52 |
| falktx | I'll have to try that, thanks | 17:53 |
| rgareus | drobilla: what does dijkstra say to lv2:maximum - lv2:maximum with pprop: lv2:integer ? | 17:56 |
| rgareus | that needs special casing in LV2 hosts. for float val = min + a *(max - min); with 0 <= a <= 1; but for integers val = min + a * (1 + max - min); | 17:59 |
| drobilla | rgareus: hm. | 18:02 |
| rgareus | JL found that issue (automating midi-filter key transpose). semitones are integers. I've meanwhile fixed it in ardour | 18:02 |
| drobilla | rgareus: I don't see the issue. They are inclusive bounds, and always float in reality. If the max is 2, it can reach 2, regardless of lv2:integer | 18:03 |
| rgareus | ardour always uses 0 <= a <= 1 (spinboxes, midi-val/127, sliders, etc). | 18:03 |
| drobilla | falktx: I guess the patch:Get itself could have a property for this. noCache or whatever. Probably an analogous header in HTTP but I'd have to check. | 18:04 |
| drobilla | rgareus: Right, but a = 1 should reach lv2:maximum regardless | 18:04 |
| drobilla | rgareus: So if you integer clamp it after that calculation, it still will (assuming the lv2:maximum is integer, of course) | 18:05 |
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| rgareus | drobilla: it will at best just reach the max. but not include it in the 'slide' range | 18:10 |
| rgareus | drobilla: assume a simple 0,1. max-min =1 .. but really there are two points. the division needs to happen at 1/2 (and not 1/1) | 18:11 |
| rgareus | either the host needs to call round() for integers. or the plugin needs to | 18:13 |
| rgareus | the plugin has no clue if it should use floor(), ceil or round(). | 18:14 |
| drobilla | While that probably should be specified, best the host just actually sends integers anyway, being the whole point | 18:14 |
| rgareus | yep. | 18:15 |
| drobilla | i.e. ardour should round post-scaling, which will do the right thing | 18:15 |
| drobilla | falktx: I'll commit save stuff a bit later today | 18:32 |
| drobilla | falktx: er, load rather. | 18:32 |
| drobilla | falktx: Probably some kind of reload kludge since fine-grained is hard. Maybe just add said property which seems clean. | 18:33 |
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| falktx | in any case, thanks | 18:38 |
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