| falktx | lv2 rocks! https://i.imgur.com/Mrbtgrc.png :D | 00:02 |
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| ax | ls | 00:11 |
| ax | oops :) | 00:11 |
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| drobilla | Hm. mda.lv2 lies about units in the same was as calf mentioned above | 00:35 |
| drobilla | I need to make an mda2 with 'native' (not 0..1) controls | 00:36 |
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| drobilla | bgola: There's definitely other stuff that's shareable, like canvas x and y as you say. Not sure where to put such things, though. | 02:17 |
| gianMOD | drobilla: we tried to make an mda with real units following a suggestion you gave - a wrapper if I recall. | 02:39 |
| gianMOD | https://github.com/portalmod/mda-lv2 | 02:40 |
| gianMOD | not all them we're sucesful though | 02:40 |
| gianMOD | might be worth checking | 02:41 |
| gianMOD | and of course, if you released an mda2 with the native units we would enjoy :-) | 02:41 |
| drobilla | Yeah, doing it completely would be extremely tedious and error-prone | 03:21 |
| drobilla | AFAIK that information just isn't available anywhere but buried in the hairy conversion code | 03:21 |
| * falktx would appreciate if the mod mda-lv2 work would be merged | 03:28 | |
| drobilla | falktx: I can't break the parameters | 03:29 |
| drobilla | Especially only some of them | 03:29 |
| falktx | ah yes, but that would mean mod-mda-lv2 will be duplicate of mda-lv2 | 03:30 |
| drobilla | The approach seems fine, though. Better than mucking with the code itself anyway, if the figured out values are wrong it'll just be.. well, wrong | 03:31 |
| drobilla | falktx: Well, if the parameters have completely changed in how they work, this fork should not have the same URIs | 03:32 |
| falktx | they don't | 03:32 |
| drobilla | Which they don't | 03:32 |
| drobilla | I will make an mda2 if they're all done, but I don't know if they are, don't know where these numbers came from, and really don't have the time anyway | 03:33 |
| falktx | I understand | 03:35 |
| falktx | porting some stuff from vst I saw the same issues | 03:35 |
| falktx | the only way to know the real values was from the getDisplayText() function, and even that was messy | 03:36 |
| drobilla | Yeah, it sucks. 0..1 is one thing, but not actually having programmatic access to the 'human' range is completely insane | 03:36 |
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| * falktx is considering building lv2 plugins for windows | 18:39 | |
| falktx | rgareus: have you tried building lv2 plugins with multiple archs yet? (for osx) | 18:40 |
| rgareus | falktx: yes | 18:41 |
| rgareus | falktx: not only tried | 18:41 |
| falktx | rgareus: ah, so they work fine on both 32 and 64bit hosts? | 18:42 |
| rgareus | falktx: yes and ppc | 18:42 |
| falktx | nice | 18:42 |
| rgareus | -arch i386 -arch ppc -arch x86_64 -mmacosx-version-min=10.5 | 18:43 |
| rgareus | is all that was needed | 18:43 |
| falktx | cool, perhaps I can build lv2s for osx as well | 18:43 |
| rgareus | building depenencies for static linking is the hard part | 18:43 |
| falktx | stuff like mda-lv2, caps-lv2, tap-lv2, fomp, etc | 18:43 |
| falktx | rgareus: do you think this will be useful? | 18:43 |
| rgareus | falktx: sure, why not? | 18:44 |
| rgareus | falktx: I did the swh LADSPAs ones | 18:44 |
| rgareus | or maybe swh-lv2 don't remember | 18:44 |
| falktx | ok, I'll that after I'm done with the mod packaging | 18:44 |
| falktx | *do that | 18:44 |
| rgareus | http://robin.linuxaudio.org/tmp/swh-plugins-osx-universal-0.4.15+gita12ba80d.zip | 18:44 |
| falktx | sadly gtk2 UIs on win/mac are a no go :( | 18:45 |
| falktx | so no calf or invada | 18:45 |
| falktx | hmm, perhaps calf can work with showinterface... | 18:46 |
| rgareus | falktx: why not? should work just fine with suil | 18:47 |
| falktx | gtk2 on osx? | 18:47 |
| rgareus | falktx: ardour3 is gtk2 on osx | 18:47 |
| falktx | but my local gtk2 shared lib is likely different from ardour's | 18:47 |
| rgareus | falktx: one problem re-locatability. there's a patch for ardour | 18:48 |
| falktx | I'd prefer to NOT build qt/gtk stuff for osx or windows | 18:48 |
| rgareus | falktx: yeah. probably a sane choice | 18:49 |
| rgareus | very fragile | 18:49 |
| falktx | I already have qt5 built for carla though, so maybe I can build rui's synths | 18:49 |
| falktx | they don't expose qt5 UI, only external ui | 18:49 |
| rgareus | falktx: on OSX the plugins could just use the host's version of libgtk @executable_path/../libs/libgtk.dylib | 18:50 |
| rgareus | still it'd need to be ABI compatible | 18:50 |
| falktx | hm, shared libs on plugins are not worth the trouble | 18:51 |
| rgareus | falktx: it is for plugin bundles | 18:52 |
| rgareus | falktx: where there's more than one DSP or GUI in the same bundle | 18:52 |
| falktx | but that shared lib might conflict with a host one | 18:53 |
| falktx | like rui synths qt5 with carla qt5 frontend | 18:53 |
| rgareus | falktx: good point | 18:53 |
| falktx | better to not use shared libs at all | 18:54 |
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