| rgareus | really? the range is the raw value. units is just a hint for the host to display. calf is doing it right min:0.015 max:64.0 - host only displays -36..+36dB | 00:17 |
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| rgareus | aah nevermind | 00:18 |
| rgareus | thinko on my part. | 00:18 |
| rgareus | calf is wrong (again) | 00:19 |
| falktx | the host would have no way to know how calf is mapping those afaik | 00:23 |
| rgareus | it never ceases to amaze me. Calf's DSP is mediocre at best, there are critical bugs that can destory equipment (reverb +300dB), filed and not fixed in > 2 years. It's riddled with small issues like ^^... AND the majority of people loves the plugins. | 00:25 |
| falktx | having a nice UI surely helps | 00:43 |
| falktx | it's also a nice set of them | 00:43 |
| rgareus | indeed | 00:44 |
| drobilla | Seems like too much effort kinda being host kinda being app kinda being plugins, of various sorts, with changing emphasis over the years, not enough on just making good plugins | 01:20 |
| drobilla | But I guess the labour has just dried up | 01:20 |
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| ax | well, on that note, can anyone suggest a good 3 band eq, DJ style? or something that can be configured to work well with 3 bands? | 03:38 |
| rgareus | ax: 'lv2fil' is a 4band parametric - DSP quality wise a very good EQ; but probably very practical for DJing | 04:14 |
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| ax | yeah, i need a simple 3 band, ideally something that cuts out nearly everything when all the bands are down, and actually boosts in the positive [swh djeq doesn't do much boosting] | 04:54 |
| drobilla | Not really what yo'ure looking for, but anyone tried http://eq10q.sourceforge.net/ ? | 05:28 |
| drobilla | Looks shiny! Website graphics! That's all that matters, really :) | 05:31 |
| ax | drobilla: just tried the UI, pretty difficult to use.. haven't even put audio through it yet | 05:57 |
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| bgola | helo :) im thinking about the 'save session' on mod-host... as a first step I want to save every instance state/preset + it's ports connections. i believe it would be nice to have a lv2:pluginInstance, or something like that and save the session as a lv2 bundle just like when you save the plugin state. does it make sense? | 18:21 |
| drobilla | bgola: preset is pretty much that, but we don't have a predicate to say pluginInstance, seems app specific? | 18:31 |
| drobilla | Could add an extremely loosely-defined one, I suppose | 18:41 |
| drobilla | e.g. in ingen it's ingen:node, which is always on an ingen:Graph | 18:42 |
| drobilla | the domain (ingen:Graph) is definitely app specific so would be unspecified | 18:42 |
| drobilla | range (plugin instance) might be useful but I'm not sure what it'd be | 18:42 |
| bgola | drobilla: yeah, that's what I don't know... i mean, there are some instance attributes that would work for every host (basically a Plugin + it's state + it's connections) and then hosts can have their own "extensions" on top of that... for example the X and Y position in a canvas for that instance | 18:43 |
| bgola | the problem with mod-host in that case is that every audio port is exposed as a jack port and jack handles the connections... if the user connects a plugin port to another jack client then it's not lv2 specific anymore | 18:44 |
| drobilla | connections are harder to do generically than it might seem since ports dont have URIs | 18:46 |
| drobilla | they have symbols, which you can use along with an instance ID, but e.g. in Ingen I construct paths so there is no need to do so | 18:46 |
| drobilla | (note state:state is there for the state part) | 18:47 |
| bgola | drobilla: yep, i'm using state already... and my solution so far for connection is exactly symbol+instance. instance basically a state ... | 18:49 |
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| drobilla | Hm, I don't seem to have any plugins (ideally a delay) with unit:s or unit:ms ports | 23:48 |
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