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| Align_Waivers | falktx: hows it going? | 07:15 |
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| Align_Waivers | I was showing off kxstudio to someone today. Just wanted to thank you for the awesome work ya do. Learning to use linux via kxstudio has been life changing. really. | 07:27 |
| falktx | thanks | 07:28 |
| Align_Waivers | I look forward to being able to share some projects when I'm at that point :) it shant be long | 07:30 |
| Align_Waivers | other than that let me know if theres anything a non-programmer can assist with | 07:30 |
| Align_Waivers | wolftune had mentioned that it'd be good to test the repositories on one of the newer kdes? had some issues trying to install on neon but I think its just a step or two I was missing | 07:32 |
| rghvdberg | what's the problem then ? | 07:35 |
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| Align_Waivers | i have to remember lol it had appeared that the programs were installed but there was no way to run them? | 07:36 |
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| rghvdberg | what programs ? | 07:36 |
| rghvdberg | much of kxstudio is under the hood | 07:36 |
| Align_Waivers | just like ardour and any programs that kxstudio would have come with? or | 07:37 |
| Align_Waivers | are they not in the repositories when you add them on to others? I'm not sure i'm still a pretty novice user | 07:37 |
| Align_Waivers | I'm currently trying to figure out if luppp is up to date on the repository and not even sure how to match | 07:38 |
| rghvdberg | did you follow ALL instructions on http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories | 07:38 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Repositories (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 07:38 |
| rghvdberg | oh btw, what distro are you using ? | 07:39 |
| Align_Waivers | neon | 07:39 |
| rghvdberg | neon ? | 07:39 |
| Align_Waivers | kde neon | 07:39 |
| Align_Waivers | and yeah i followed the instructions | 07:40 |
| Align_Waivers | I think I got one error along the way but id' need to run that computer again to see | 07:40 |
| falktx|work | kde neon is the name of a distro now? | 07:40 |
| rghvdberg | https://neon.kde.org/ | 07:40 |
| LAbot | Title: KDE neon (at neon.kde.org) | 07:40 |
| falktx|work | ah so based on 16.04 | 07:42 |
| falktx|work | basically kubuntu with extra ppas | 07:42 |
| rghvdberg | haha | 07:42 |
| rghvdberg | like mint is ubuntu + ppa ;-) | 07:43 |
| falktx|work | yeah | 07:43 |
| Align_Waivers | well wolftune suggested debugging on that might be helpful and Im trying to find a setup that works on that computer. It didn't really like kxstudio, had some weird graphics issue that was too much for me to deal with | 07:44 |
| falktx|work | ubuntu is a great base to build on | 07:44 |
| falktx|work | kxstudio is not a distro ;) | 07:45 |
| rghvdberg | it's just ubunti with extra ppas ;-) | 07:45 |
| falktx|work | the iso, yes 100% correct | 07:45 |
| falktx|work | but kxstudio is not just an iso | 07:45 |
| rghvdberg | but ... kxstudio changed my life | 07:45 |
| rghvdberg | not joking | 07:45 |
| Align_Waivers | lol | 07:45 |
| Align_Waivers | you missed me saying that earlier | 07:46 |
| rghvdberg | I didn't miss that ! | 07:46 |
| rghvdberg | I was nodding my head like : yeah that's true .. | 07:46 |
| rghvdberg | but you couldn't see that because this is text only :-) | 07:47 |
| Align_Waivers | ah yeah text misses some things | 07:47 |
| Align_Waivers | and that computer misses kxstudio even though it has yet to experience it | 07:48 |
| rghvdberg | I see a lot of people struggling to get audio working. "I don't want to change things and add ppa and stuff" | 07:48 |
| Align_Waivers | it takes some figuring out by experience | 07:49 |
| Align_Waivers | people are bad with expectations and knowing how they will feel about something | 07:49 |
| Align_Waivers | they assume wrong | 07:49 |
| rghvdberg | They finally have it setup .. like kxstudio would do in a few mouse clicks / deb installs | 07:49 |
| rghvdberg | set limits.conf , add user to the audio group .. etc etc | 07:50 |
| rghvdberg | but figuring your settings for jack can be fiddly | 07:50 |
| Align_Waivers | but for an average user.. linux is a bit over peoples heads. I've been working on it (read, falling in love) months, pretty relentlessly, and like i said I couldnt get it working | 07:51 |
| Align_Waivers | yeah Its been great for me pretty much out of the box, latency issues cool at with 256 samples | 07:51 |
| rghvdberg | i'd stick with plain ubuntu or linux mint | 07:51 |
| Align_Waivers | (except on that other computer) | 07:51 |
| Align_Waivers | maybe i'll try mint, but the computer just seems really funky for whatever reason | 07:52 |
| Align_Waivers | didn't like ubuntu 16 | 07:52 |
| falktx|work | kde neon is ubuntu 16.04 | 07:52 |
| Align_Waivers | i mean the plain version | 07:52 |
| rghvdberg | unity is an acquired taste | 07:53 |
| Align_Waivers | well theres just weird issues with certain dialog boxes not showing up in a way that was legible, etc etc | 07:53 |
| rghvdberg | I actually like unity | 07:53 |
| rghvdberg | ever tried Mint ? | 07:54 |
| Align_Waivers | so looking at synaptic, kxstudio repos (and gcc5 packages) are there... | 07:54 |
| Align_Waivers | no i havent | 07:55 |
| Align_Waivers | if it works well generalliy with kxstudio though im sold | 07:55 |
| rghvdberg | and all the apps are in synaptic too ? | 07:55 |
| Align_Waivers | no apparently not | 07:55 |
| rghvdberg | apt-cache search cadence | 07:56 |
| rghvdberg | what does that give you | 07:56 |
| rghvdberg | we are using the terminal .. | 07:56 |
| Align_Waivers | nothing | 07:56 |
| Align_Waivers | yeah i've never used apt-cache but thats a helpful command | 07:57 |
| Align_Waivers | hey heres a question for you - ever used luppp? | 07:58 |
| Align_Waivers | rghvdberg: | 07:58 |
| rghvdberg | Align_waivers: | 07:58 |
| rghvdberg | no | 07:58 |
| Align_Waivers | what are your favorite features of kx | 07:59 |
| rghvdberg | cadence, carla | 07:59 |
| Align_Waivers | and how do you use carla, for specific plugins? | 08:00 |
| rghvdberg | cadence for setting up / starting jack and all bridges | 08:00 |
| Align_Waivers | sure | 08:00 |
| rghvdberg | carla when trying out plugins | 08:00 |
| rghvdberg | and making elaborate multi synth patches on one midi track | 08:01 |
| Align_Waivers | ahh yeah that make sense | 08:01 |
| Align_Waivers | what do you do when your not trying out plugins? | 08:01 |
| Align_Waivers | just using them in a daw or something? | 08:02 |
| rghvdberg | this stuff : https://soundcloud.com/rghvdberg/sets/one-synth-challenge | 08:02 |
| LAbot | Title: One Synth Challenge by Rob van den Berg | Free Listening on SoundCloud (at soundcloud.com) | 08:02 |
| rghvdberg | mostly ardour | 08:03 |
| rghvdberg | sometimes I needed to run a windows plugin and used carla, nowadays I use airwave for running windows plugins. | 08:05 |
| Align_Waivers | nice | 08:05 |
| Align_Waivers | you use qtractor sometimes though? | 08:05 |
| Align_Waivers | I felt foolish today for realizing i'd never even tried it.. | 08:06 |
| Align_Waivers | but ardours worked well for me so I dont question it | 08:06 |
| rghvdberg | used Qtractor on one track. Ardour still has issues with midi. | 08:07 |
| rghvdberg | but I prefer the way ardour handles the audio part of the synth plugin. makes more sense | 08:08 |
| rghvdberg | for example : the fader of qtractor sends a cc #7 to the synth plugin (volume). When the plugin doesn't react to the midi cc, the fader doesn't work. | 08:09 |
| rghvdberg | Ardour just adjust the volume of the audio signal, as I would expect it to do. | 08:09 |
| rghvdberg | Qtractor is a midi sequencer from the ground up, with audio. Ardour vice versa | 08:10 |
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| Align_Waivers | oh yeah thats annoying | 08:13 |
| Align_Waivers | and i've had some issues with the midi but generally ardour has been pretty good - and I do pretty sophisticated mapping using midi (imo) | 08:14 |
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| Align_Waivers | it just seems slow | 08:14 |
| rghvdberg | handling lots of midi regions slows down ardour. Known issue | 08:14 |
| Align_Waivers | really? you mean multiple regions playing simultaneously? | 08:15 |
| Align_Waivers | cause I'm just talking about midi-learn functions and multiple midi inputs | 08:15 |
| rghvdberg | no, just having tons of midi region (my workflow .. :-/ ) can slow the gui down | 08:15 |
| Align_Waivers | hmmm. Interesting | 08:16 |
| rghvdberg | oh latest track (from me and ssj71) is on github | 08:16 |
| rghvdberg | when you finally have it all setup you can download it and play it in ardour ;-) | 08:17 |
| rghvdberg | https://github.com/ssj71/OSC90 | 08:17 |
| rghvdberg | OSC90 Remix is the final version | 08:17 |
| Align_Waivers | ha! ssj71 is cool | 08:18 |
| rghvdberg | still need to add all the synth patches to the Helm Patches.zip but all the patches are 'live' in the daw | 08:18 |
| rghvdberg | he is ! | 08:18 |
| Align_Waivers | wait i can download the zip.. or how do I 'git stuff' is it just git https://github.com/ssj71/OSC90.git or something | 08:18 |
| Align_Waivers | i wanna do it proper from the terminal | 08:19 |
| rghvdberg | like a boss | 08:19 |
| rghvdberg | git clone | 08:19 |
| Align_Waivers | hah ezactly | 08:19 |
| rghvdberg | gotta go. | 08:19 |
| Align_Waivers | take it easy | 08:19 |
| rghvdberg | teach piano. people actually think they can learn from me | 08:19 |
| rghvdberg | lol | 08:19 |
| Align_Waivers | gl with that | 08:19 |
| rghvdberg | ttyl | 08:19 |
| Align_Waivers | ;) | 08:19 |
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| rghvdberg | o/ | 09:48 |
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| FergusL | excellent shifted workhours workflow rghvdberg! | 12:20 |
| FergusL | falktx`: about kxstudio repos compatibility with 16.04. I plan to upgrade manually, there aren't any packages from the repos that are going to be held or prevent from upgrading, right? | 12:24 |
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| falktx|work | update manually is a very bad idea | 15:56 |
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| jablo | I am thinking about setting up another older computer as a midi+software synth computer, thus offloading the main computer running ardour. How would I best go about doing this - using the analog output and feed that into my main computer running ardour, or setting up netjack, or maybe something else? | 19:35 |
| jablo | I am on a very limited budget, so all my computers are old and slow - but still I want to make the best of what I have | 19:35 |
| rghvdberg | I think the analog output would be the easiest | 20:14 |
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