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| falktx|work | I think I got tuxguitar to build now | 11:32 |
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| falktx|work | do any of you use tuxguitar? | 12:38 |
| falktx|work | some testing would be welcome | 12:38 |
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| falktx|work | ricardocrudo: hi | 14:31 |
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| gartral | hey all, so i have an odd setup, i have a digidesign 002 rack unit, and an onyx 820i daisy chained on firewire, they both work (the dd002r has it's host of minor issues, but.. I'm ignoring that, for now) my thinking was that i want to use the 002 as a sort of extended input bank in kack, but it doesn't appear that cadance will allow for thisany tips? | 15:17 |
| holstein | AFAIK, digidesign doesnt support linux | 15:19 |
| gartral | holstein: officially, they don't but I found and tweaked some drivers that let me use it | 15:20 |
| holstein | nothing about linux is specifically preventing you from doing that, but, i say, thin out some of your hardware, there, and get linux audio working.. | 15:20 |
| holstein | gartral: sure.. but, thats the issue | 15:20 |
| holstein | now, you have *another* party in the mix.. the creators of those drivers | 15:20 |
| gartral | holstein: ohh my setup works ok, I just can't use both interfaces consurrently as far as i can see | 15:21 |
| holstein | as far as you can see? | 15:21 |
| holstein | anyways, test that you can use jack with just one of the interfaces | 15:21 |
| gartral | the cadance front end doesn't provide me with any clear was of using *both* interfaces for input | 15:21 |
| holstein | right | 15:21 |
| gartral | holstein: I know i can | 15:22 |
| holstein | gartral: try it, friend.. | 15:22 |
| holstein | can you? | 15:22 |
| gartral | holstein: yes | 15:22 |
| gartral | both work fine on their own | 15:22 |
| holstein | so, thats a no, then | 15:22 |
| gartral | what do you mean "that's a no"? | 15:23 |
| holstein | thats a no, to, they both work | 15:23 |
| holstein | you dont know that you can, and, im quite sure, it wont work that way | 15:23 |
| holstein | gartral: i would look for folks who are doing exactly what you are trying to do | 15:24 |
| gartral | they do work, but i see no way of using both devices inputs /at the same time/ I can either use the onyx as my input, or the 002, not both at once | 15:24 |
| holstein | right | 15:24 |
| holstein | i dont either.. | 15:24 |
| holstein | AFAIK, you cant | 15:24 |
| holstein | as in, its not supported | 15:25 |
| holstein | gartral: all i can tell you is, what i have decided to do, as a linux user | 15:25 |
| holstein | im not daisy chaining firewire devices together.. | 15:26 |
| holstein | on *any* os, its not a "good" idea to mix devices like that | 15:26 |
| holstein | gartral: i would look into the ffado community.. whatever is able to facilitate what you are trying to do will trickle into *every* distro from there.. or alsa-firewire | 15:27 |
| holstein | you can try #opensourcemusicians or #ardour and see if anyone is using 2 firewire devices | 15:28 |
| holstein | otherwise, its typically avoided to use multiple devices, generally | 15:29 |
| gartral | holstein: my reasoning is this: both devices are recognized and usable, even daisychained, no dropouts or xruns with reasonable latency, but i see no way of telling jack that I want inputs from both at once | 15:29 |
| holstein | gartral: right.. and AFAIK, you cant | 15:29 |
| holstein | gartral: you are asking jack, with the ffado drivers to do that, and AFAIK, its not able to do that | 15:29 |
| holstein | but, its not a great idea, anyway, on any OS to mix devices like that | 15:30 |
| holstein | but, by all means, do your own research.. and see what workd for you | 15:30 |
| holstein | you can read, for example, http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/the-state-of-firewire-audio-interfaces-support-on-linux | 15:32 |
| LAbot | Title: The state of FireWire audio interfaces support on Linux | Libre Graphics World (at libregraphicsworld.org) | 15:32 |
| holstein | "I'm currently hacking on a driver for devices based on the widely-used DICE chip. At this stage, it works only for playback, but I expect to support capturing, clock source selection, and synchronization of multiple devices soon." | 15:32 |
| holstein | that article is from 2012.. and AFAIK, that is not implemented.. and if it were, it would be depended on the hardware types, and support | 15:33 |
| holstein | there wont be much, specifically, that can be done this far downstream, though.. and, also, any changes made, like facilitating support for the digi002, may break something else | 15:34 |
| holstein | gartral: its quite challenging to find firewire users.. i *do* have access to a digi002, and a presonus firepod.. | 15:35 |
| holstein | i certainly wouldnt mind doing some first-hand testing for you | 15:35 |
| holstein | but, for me, i decided not to bother with supporting the digi002.. | 15:35 |
| holstein | its *so* much easier/cheaper to get new hardware, these days, that supports linux "better" | 15:36 |
| holstein | assuming alsa firewire supports the devices, and, likely it wont, since, you need "hack-ish" drivers to force it to work, you could use http://manual.ardour.org/setting-up-your-system/using_more_than_one_audio_device/ | 15:37 |
| holstein | i might take it in stages.. try taking a few internal audio devices, and make an alsa device that jack can use.. internal, or and internal + usb | 15:38 |
| holstein | then, move onto the firewire setup, which should be worse.. | 15:38 |
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| enrry | hi | 18:38 |
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| enrry | hi | 20:21 |
| enrry | falktx | 20:21 |
| enrry | the workaround for zasf sounds working for now. | 20:22 |
| enrry | I have noticed another thing: CALF ladspa disappeared. Did you dropped LADSPA in your CALF build? | 20:23 |
| falktx|work | the authors did | 20:31 |
| enrry | http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories:Plugins | 20:33 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Repositories : Plugins (at kxstudio.linuxaudio.org) | 20:33 |
| enrry | but also your version? | 20:33 |
| falktx|work | yes, as my version is updated | 20:36 |
| enrry | ok, so I guess I can use them importing with carla VST, right? | 20:37 |
| enrry | UI is present, but it misses some parts compared to the standalone | 20:38 |
| enrry | for example, in multiband compressor plots are not present | 20:38 |
| enrry | is that a known limitation? | 20:39 |
| falktx|work | it's running as bridge so it's normal | 20:39 |
| falktx|work | disable ui bridges to get the full thing. but it might result in crashes | 20:39 |
| falktx|work | I personally prefer no crashes over fancy graphs ;) | 20:40 |
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| enrry | goodbye all! | 21:00 |
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