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| Elaeum | hey, anyone around? i'm having some crashing problems, hoping someone knows and can point me in the right direction | 05:04 |
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| xavier__ | hi. is there a way to jump to a clear theme ? my eyes dislike dark themes. can't find how to do that. please help | 09:44 |
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| falktx|work | no, not easily | 09:50 |
| falktx|work | I made the option to use the dark theme disabled by default because reverting that is not easy | 09:50 |
| falktx|work | there's a lot of small config files everywhere | 09:50 |
| xavier__ | i don't get it, falktx|work, do you mean there's a way to disable the dark theme or not ? | 09:53 |
| xavier__ | ("use the dark theme disable" is unclear to me) | 09:53 |
| falktx|work | the dark theme is an option after install | 09:54 |
| xavier__ | oh | 09:54 |
| falktx|work | which is disabled by default | 09:54 |
| xavier__ | oh | 09:54 |
| falktx|work | the live-dvd has the dark theme, but after install it's optional | 09:54 |
| xavier__ | i did not have that choice | 09:55 |
| falktx|work | you did | 09:55 |
| xavier__ | but i come from a gnome install | 09:55 |
| xavier__ | believe me, id not | 09:55 |
| falktx|work | ah, then it's nothing to do with kxstudio | 09:56 |
| xavier__ | well, i was not using a dark theme on gnome ! | 09:56 |
| xavier__ | so when i got here, all went black by default | 09:57 |
| falktx|work | the kxstudio repos don't modify the user theme, ever | 09:58 |
| falktx|work | and the welcome thing has the theme option disabled by default as I said | 09:58 |
| xavier__ | oh, weird then | 09:58 |
| falktx|work | so must be something else | 09:58 |
| xavier__ | ok | 09:58 |
| xavier__ | indeed i had problems with kde after installing kxstudio | 09:59 |
| xavier__ | and i had to install kde a second time | 09:59 |
| xavier__ | so maybe i should get help from #kde | 10:00 |
| falktx|work | but you said you're using gnome | 10:02 |
| xavier__ | i was | 10:03 |
| xavier__ | i'm on kde now | 10:03 |
| xavier__ | i thought that was necessary to get kxstudio | 10:04 |
| xavier__ | isn't it ? | 10:04 |
| falktx|work | no | 10:07 |
| falktx|work | the repos work on any debian based distro, no matter the desktop | 10:07 |
| falktx|work | the live-dvd is the one that uses kde. but you don't truly need that. you can just use the repos with whatever you prefer | 10:08 |
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| xavier__ | hi again. can't get no sound from hydrogen, but i can from audacious and from ardour | 11:49 |
| xavier__ | but not from audacious if ardour is on | 11:49 |
| xavier__ | what's normal and not normal here ? | 11:50 |
| xavier__ | (hope hydrogen makes some sound at times :) | 11:50 |
| xavier__ | (been trying to tweak things in >properties > audio with no success) | 11:51 |
| falktx|work | sounds like you still need to setup jack | 11:59 |
| falktx|work | http://libremusicproduction.com/articles/demystifying-jack-%E2%80%93-beginners-guide-getting-started-jack | 12:00 |
| LAbot | Title: Demystifying JACK – A Beginners Guide to Getting Started with JACK | Libre Music Production (at libremusicproduction.com) | 12:00 |
| xavier__ | working :D | 12:10 |
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| rghvdberg | falktx , what's the 'debug dance' again ? | 14:01 |
| rghvdberg | ardour4 --debug -> r | 14:02 |
| rghvdberg | oh wait, was it bt ? | 14:02 |
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| xavier__ | since jack took place, sound's gone in various apps like iceweasel (yt) or deadbeef... | 15:12 |
| xavier__ | (yt = youtube) | 15:12 |
| xavier__ | (deadbeef is a music player) | 15:14 |
| rghvdberg | if jack is running, pulseaudio stops | 15:18 |
| rghvdberg | well ... it makes no sound. with cadence you can bridge pulse to jack. so jack is allways running and pulse is routed through jack | 15:19 |
| rghvdberg | are you using cadence ? | 15:19 |
| xavier__ | yes rghvdberg | 15:21 |
| rghvdberg | falktx|work : any chance of updating ardour ? strange bug with multi-duplicating regions. the timing of the regions shift. seems to have been fixed in git | 15:21 |
| rghvdberg | xavier__ did you check the PulseAudio tab ? | 15:22 |
| rghvdberg | under JACK Bridges | 15:22 |
| xavier__ | ok ipressed 'start' there | 15:22 |
| xavier__ | nothing happens | 15:23 |
| rghvdberg | that's good :-) | 15:23 |
| rghvdberg | re-open browser and check yt | 15:23 |
| rghvdberg | btw chrome ? firefox ? | 15:23 |
| rghvdberg | also check ALSA bridge | 15:23 |
| rghvdberg | oh wait .. kde ... is that using pulseaudio ? | 15:24 |
| xavier__ | idk | 15:24 |
| xavier__ | iceweasel ^ | 15:25 |
| rghvdberg | ok :-) ff without branding | 15:25 |
| xavier__ | yep | 15:25 |
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| dreamer | hi all. reading this topic: https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=13280&start=15 and wondering how to get a windows vst to work in carla. I installed it with wine and am trying to link to the folder in the carla settings | 19:18 |
| LAbot | Title: LinuxMusicians View topic - Windows VST2/3 plugins in Carla (revisited) (at linuxmusicians.com) | 19:18 |
| dreamer | however it doesn't show up in the plugin list | 19:18 |
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| dreamer | (yes I restarted carla. multiple times) | 19:21 |
| dreamer | ah, just noticed different packages for the windows bridges. however they don't seem to work either | 19:26 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: Hi! What Win-VST plugin are you testing please? | 19:28 |
| dreamer | http://www.audiothing.net/effects/valve-filter-vf-1/ | 19:28 |
| LAbot | Title: Valve Filter VF-1 | AudioThing (at www.audiothing.net) | 19:28 |
| dreamer | but, I also noticed I didn't have the carla-vst package installed .. | 19:28 |
| dreamer | so. doing that now (and upgrading a shitload of python packages along the way ..) | 19:28 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: OK, I try testing on valve filter | 19:29 |
| dreamer | new version of carla now as well. looks way new | 19:29 |
| dreamer | distrozapper: there was a free download for it the other day | 19:29 |
| dreamer | ok. trying with new carla. still not finding it | 19:31 |
| dreamer | ah. my settings have been removed it seems | 19:31 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: OK let me find the plugin... | 19:31 |
| dreamer | distrozapper: I see it listed now! | 19:32 |
| dreamer | (I added the path to the vst setting. didn't know if I needed vst or vst3. there is no vst2) | 19:32 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: Heya! How does it work? | 19:33 |
| dreamer | no idea yet. the license activation popup isn't loading properly | 19:33 |
| dreamer | I get a wine error popup | 19:34 |
| dreamer | https://bin.disroot.org/?4d8f46b640c321f3#eOSdAFw1bDKsByVwm0VZJMZfu1zez0Ue8zREDqY4324= | 19:34 |
| LAbot | Title: ZeroBin (at bin.disroot.org) | 19:34 |
| dreamer | otherwise it seems to work pretty well (as in it integrates well with the gui etc) | 19:36 |
| dreamer | parameters are exposed etc | 19:36 |
| holstein | but, you need the license to "activate" it? | 19:37 |
| dreamer | yes | 19:37 |
| dreamer | I think I just need to input the license key | 19:37 |
| dreamer | holstein: I could try with a sound-source. the ui response very slowly | 19:37 |
| holstein | wont hurt to try.. are there any work arounds mentioned on the net? | 19:37 |
| holstein | maybe, you can just copy over something from a windows installation.. | 19:38 |
| dreamer | uhg. then I need to install windows somewhere | 19:38 |
| dreamer | including some plugin host or something | 19:39 |
| holstein | well, i didnt say that | 19:39 |
| dreamer | see you next year :P | 19:39 |
| dreamer | hehe | 19:39 |
| holstein | but, that can definitely be needed, since, that can help you work around the situation | 19:39 |
| dreamer | the UI respons very quickly before I try the license stuff though. it's just the activation that b0rks it | 19:40 |
| dreamer | but. can't open the normal UI for it. just the carla-integrated ("rack") one | 19:40 |
| dreamer | ok. lets try with some soundsource .. any easy suggestions? ;) | 19:40 |
| holstein | ah.. so, the UI actually doesnt work, then | 19:40 |
| holstein | is it in "demo mode"? if so, wont hurt to see if its actually working | 19:41 |
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| dreamer | holstein: I don't know if there is a demo mode. maybe it has some limitations? | 19:44 |
| holstein | dreamer: i have no idea, friend. how is it in windows? | 19:44 |
| dreamer | you tell me | 19:45 |
| holstein | i would expect the same kind of thing.. if there is a demo mode, then, without the code entered, it will be in that mode | 19:45 |
| dreamer | I haven't used windows in over 10 years | 19:45 |
| holstein | just one more step, then :) | 19:45 |
| dreamer | hmm that's odd. my midi-keyboard isn't recognized in claudia .. | 19:45 |
| holstein | anyways, you should be able to ask the vendor if there is a demo mode, and, then you can audition the software as it is, and see if its worth persuing making it work | 19:46 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: In demo mode the plug-in will output silence for 6 seconds every 20 seconds. | 19:46 |
| dreamer | holstein: yeah I'm trying to get qsynth going | 19:46 |
| dreamer | distrozapper: ok. you've used valve plugins before? | 19:47 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: Unsure, but lets say: no | 19:47 |
| dreamer | ok hehe | 19:47 |
| dreamer | hmmmz, I can't figure out why my midi keyboard isn't showing in claudia. want to patch it to qsynth so I can make some tunes .. | 19:48 |
| holstein | use something else to test the plugin | 19:48 |
| holstein | sometimes,i find i need a2jmidid ...not sure if that is your situation | 19:49 |
| dreamer | I have a2jmid running. it's still not there | 19:49 |
| dreamer | weird. alsa can see it just fine | 19:49 |
| dreamer | ok. reset 'hardware export' in cadence. works now | 19:50 |
| dreamer | *pfew* | 19:50 |
| holstein | make the connections via alsa midi, then. | 19:50 |
| dreamer | no it works new. meh. ok need some soundfonts first of course (this has been a while hehe. i mostly use hardwaresynths these days) | 19:51 |
| dreamer | distrozapper: you where right. it silences every ~10 seconds or so. so the plugin works at least :) | 19:55 |
| dreamer | just the gui crashes somehow .. | 19:55 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: Sounds "good" so far then. | 19:55 |
| dreamer | uhuh | 19:55 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: I just installed it with wine, sorry, low bandwidth here ;) | 19:57 |
| dreamer | :) | 19:58 |
| dreamer | (hey, it's not that big :P) | 19:58 |
| dreamer | oh wait. 56mb for the rar haha | 19:58 |
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| dreamer | distrozapper: any luck getting the normal UI to appear? | 20:05 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: Not yet. From your former error posts I see you are running some wine 1.6xx. Is that true still? I have got wine-rt 1.7.52 here. | 20:09 |
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| distrozapper | dreamer: AFAIK wine-rt is recommended | 20:10 |
| dreamer | ok | 20:12 |
| dreamer | ah. it's a kxstudio package? | 20:13 |
| dreamer | ok, why the hell not. I have fast internet anyway ;) | 20:13 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: yes it is a kxstudio package | 20:14 |
| dreamer | interesting mix of packages. both compiled for wily, trusty and lucid | 20:14 |
| dreamer | (actually I'm on debian stretch on this machine) | 20:15 |
| dreamer | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/wine-rt-i386_2%3a1.7.52-1~kxstudio1v5_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/wine', which is also in package wine 1.6.2-22 | 20:15 |
| dreamer | meh. lets try a manual removal first then .. | 20:15 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: ah that is good info | 20:15 |
| dreamer | ah meh. my playonlinux depends on wine | 20:15 |
| dreamer | (which I use to install some windows apps to program my midi-controllers) | 20:16 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: OK stop. | 20:16 |
| dreamer | too late | 20:16 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: should not matter too much | 20:17 |
| dreamer | ok, I have a newer wine now | 20:17 |
| dreamer | 1.8 | 20:17 |
| dreamer | and it works \o/ | 20:17 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: ehm...what works? | 20:18 |
| dreamer | everything :) | 20:18 |
| dreamer | the UI. license dialogue and the normal interface for the plugin :) | 20:19 |
| dreamer | just activated the plugin and no more silence after 30 secs | 20:19 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: sounds good ;) Test further please | 20:19 |
| dreamer | yeah I will. so far the sound is great | 20:20 |
| dreamer | no idea if the plugin is actually any good hehe. but also a nice chance to play with carla | 20:20 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: Yes, the carla usability is in focus here ;) | 20:21 |
| dreamer | thnx for the help distrozapper :) | 20:24 |
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| distrozapper | dreamer: You are welcome! Nice to meet you as carla tester :) | 20:31 |
| dreamer | are you a carla dev by any chance? :) | 20:38 |
| dreamer | I still use mostly external synths. but my soundcard has many ins/outs so may use some plugins as insert-filters on the mixer :) | 20:39 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: Alas...no :( falkTX is carla's father. | 20:40 |
| dreamer | heh | 20:40 |
| dreamer | falktx does nearly everything kx isn't it | 20:41 |
| dreamer | distrozapper: poweruser then? ;) | 20:41 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: Let's say "kxstudio addict", since falkTX is one of the best supporters I have seen so far. | 20:43 |
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| dreamer | :) | 20:49 |
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| distrozapper | dreamer: I am not a "poweruser". I am "a bedroom music experimentalist with linux affinity, using KXStudio" ;) | 20:52 |
| dreamer | :) | 20:53 |
| dreamer | ok, time for some downtime on the couch. back to poking at sound later | 20:53 |
| distrozapper | dreamer: yw ;) | 20:54 |
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| ssj71 | falktx`: how can I get the lowlatency kernel source so I can patch it? apt-get source linux-image$(uname -r) just gets the generic code | 22:44 |
| ssj71 | or is it all configuration stuff? | 22:45 |
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