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| swineytoad | can anyone elucidate why i test fine in my audio setup but dont get sound from anything? | 15:29 |
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| scary_hallo | are all faders on in 'alsamixer'? | 15:31 |
| swineytoad | ya | 15:35 |
| swineytoad | i do tests.. all fine. i cannot seem to paste my printscreen in any image prog native to kx but... | 15:36 |
| swineytoad | guess its this laptop. ive gotten it to wokr a million times but then it... doesnt again. devices in setup that i believe have orked before are not, | 15:37 |
| swineytoad | every time i reboot im screwed again. confounding. hell im just trying to rela and wtch some vids with a friend, cant even do that. tyring to get a shot for ya | 15:38 |
| swineytoad | tests work in the settings and i have all that work at high pref, but if any work in the overall audio playback i should be good, no? | 15:39 |
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| swineytoad | bottom line is its harder to play or record on kx than it was elsewhere BUT i know its gotta be soething stupid and simple about this toshiba laptop | 16:07 |
| swineytoad | it an i7 so no problem with that, but... | 16:07 |
| swineytoad | ok in summary: why would kxstudio not just pick up whatever my system wants to use and make it work like a "notmal" computer os usually does | 16:08 |
| spectromas | define normal | 16:10 |
| swineytoad | and if audio tests work/produce sound, why wouldnt say, firefox, music player, DAWS, etc? | 16:10 |
| swineytoad | ever other os ived ued... =/ | 16:10 |
| spectromas | I didn't catch what the actual problem is | 16:11 |
| spectromas | you can't bridge audio from firefox etc to jack? | 16:11 |
| swineytoad | i just meant, if my speakers physically work and audio tests work, why would that not translate into function | 16:11 |
| swineytoad | oh sorry, no its i get no sound whatsoever | 16:11 |
| spectromas | from nothing at all? | 16:12 |
| swineytoad | i have in the past, but every reboot seems to reset it. default audio playback devices, multiple ones, work when tested but not anywhere else | 16:13 |
| swineytoad | correct | 16:13 |
| swineytoad | nothing at all | 16:13 |
| spectromas | is jack running? what's going on in cadence? | 16:13 |
| swineytoad | server status i stopped. but its always been like that. obviously new to this (use of windows mustve mashed my brain). et me see what going on now, changed something in cadence | 16:17 |
| swineytoad | i have gotten sound by doing almot random things and doing it do many times frustrated has screwed up my view of wtf to do rather than harpen it. | 16:18 |
| swineytoad | so excuse this newbarama session =/ | 16:18 |
| spectromas | swineytoad: don't do random things, try to fix it logically | 16:19 |
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| swineytoad | agreed. thats not my usualy M O but (no ecuse) life is killing me. good for art though heh. | 16:24 |
| swineytoad | alsa > pulse > jack | 16:25 |
| spectromas | first, is jack started? | 16:25 |
| swineytoad | is what has worked in the past. keep restarting. | 16:26 |
| swineytoad | no but start does nothing | 16:26 |
| spectromas | force restart? | 16:27 |
| swineytoad | server statu: (X) stopped / raeltime: (check) no | 16:27 |
| swineytoad | oer and over | 16:27 |
| swineytoad | and the above stays the same after successful restart | 16:28 |
| spectromas | you mean it restarted but jack still won't start? | 16:29 |
| swineytoad | the above JACK status info remains the same. | 16:30 |
| swineytoad | id say yes but my confusion is at a point where i feel that a better answer | 16:31 |
| spectromas | can you screenshot? | 16:31 |
| swineytoad | sec, hopefully, imagemagick doenst wanna accept a pasted printscreen but im gonna try some online applet | 16:33 |
| swineytoad | or maybe try and paste it to desktop let see.. | 16:33 |
| spectromas | you can do 'scrot', it will save wherever your terminal is at, so home probably | 16:34 |
| spectromas | or scrot -s to select an area | 16:34 |
| swineytoad | thanks. gonna throw it on imgur unless [i was not on the web for 6 months im not u to date =P) | 16:39 |
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| swineytoad | pm'd | 16:42 |
| spectromas | thanks. Maybe it is something in the settings, did you change things in there? | 16:43 |
| spectromas | Configure | 16:44 |
| spectromas | might be easier if you can just screenshot the Engine and Driver pages as well | 16:45 |
| swineytoad | yeah a bit but, nothing really happed. anything to say on that... say about ins out... auctually nvm ill just throw some shots up | 16:46 |
| swineytoad | aye, sec | 16:47 |
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| spectromas | swineytoad: turn on realtime | 16:59 |
| swineytoad | msg'dd, the tow different driver tabs are to show i/o option other than shown/selected in other | 16:59 |
| swineytoad | will do | 16:59 |
| spectromas | everything looks ok there I think, obviously the output needs to be correct though | 17:01 |
| spectromas | try again with realtime | 17:01 |
| swineytoad | unless i should restart firefo and say, go try you tube or something, whch i will do, no change. i think the output might b e worng. back with news from noobarresmentville shortly | 17:04 |
| spectromas | forget about firefox at the moment, does jack start? | 17:05 |
| swineytoad | it alway says restart was successful but jack status i as in the shots | 17:06 |
| swineytoad | and pressing start is... just fondling a gui no change | 17:07 |
| spectromas | can you close firefox and any other music/audio applications? | 17:08 |
| swineytoad | good idea | 17:08 |
| spectromas | anything in the logs? | 17:09 |
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| swineytoad | logs of what / where would these logs be ? | 17:12 |
| swineytoad | nothng new in sys logs if thats whatcha mean | 17:12 |
| spectromas | cadence>tools | 17:14 |
| swineytoad | sec, will throw a shot lest i flood you and get booted =p | 17:17 |
| swineytoad | /poke | 17:24 |
| swineytoad | =] | 17:25 |
| spectromas | sorry :) | 17:28 |
| spectromas | the jack tab? | 17:28 |
| swineytoad | so is this semi normal or a hardware oddity? id say also a lack of linux omtiptence but this being such a wench just seems strange | 17:28 |
| swineytoad | both hots hould be there, no link for firt or second inage o two thumbs? | 17:28 |
| spectromas | hmm lots of people have problems with jack but it's not really complicated | 17:28 |
| swineytoad | k | 17:29 |
| spectromas | oops yeah got it | 17:29 |
| spectromas | change the channels in 2 | 17:30 |
| swineytoad | do you mean chnage output to channel 2 or?? | 17:32 |
| spectromas | change input and output to 2 | 17:34 |
| spectromas | L and R I guess | 17:34 |
| swineytoad | i applaud thee! | 17:37 |
| spectromas | jack started? | 17:37 |
| swineytoad | yup. hydrogen is making sound... ets see about firefo, i can only assume it will | 17:38 |
| spectromas | firefox might be using the alsa bridge so that may be different but can be fixed easily | 17:40 |
| swineytoad | hrm, no ytube/flash video but other stuff working... ideas i feel dicck-ish for asking for much more | 17:41 |
| spectromas | ok this is the alsa bridge section I believe (I don't actually use KDE and kx iso like you have) | 17:42 |
| spectromas | is the alsa bridge started? in cadence | 17:42 |
| swineytoad | so is this semi normal or a hardware oddity? id say also a lack of linux omtiptence but this being such a wench just seems strange alsa is "Using PulseAudio plugin bridge (always on)" | 17:43 |
| swineytoad | err | 17:44 |
| spectromas | you just don't have it set up correctly, that's all. A car won't drive if you don't have all the components plugged in and connected right ;) | 17:44 |
| swineytoad | ALSA audio "Using PulseAudio plugin bridge (always on)" | 17:44 |
| spectromas | change that, I don't think you have pulseaudio, do you? | 17:45 |
| swineytoad | right o =] | 17:45 |
| swineytoad | i guess not, i know nothing of it anyhow! | 17:46 |
| swineytoad | alsa to jack now | 17:46 |
| spectromas | you're nearly there, don't worry | 17:46 |
| spectromas | does it start? | 17:46 |
| swineytoad | jack i still started/serer and realtim yes | 17:47 |
| spectromas | no, the alsa bridge I mean | 17:47 |
| swineytoad | ok we're all good | 17:48 |
| swineytoad | yeah it says always on. daws, seqs, firefo, and all other audio crap is working | 17:49 |
| swineytoad | thank you very mucg! | 17:49 |
| spectromas | you're welcome :) | 17:50 |
| spectromas | maybe reboot to make sure it is saved! | 17:50 |
| swineytoad | will do, wont be hard to fix if i have to re do it every time like it seems to have been but regardless, brb! =P | 17:52 |
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| spectromas | oh dear, the dreaded reboot | 18:11 |
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| ahellquist|studi | falktx: quick question, should it be possible to change midi-program on a carla plugin (Dexed or Noice Maker) from my external midi controller ? I think this has been working fine in the past but I am not able any more. | 18:36 |
| falktx | ahellquist|studi: it should yes, but maybe not in lv2 | 18:40 |
| falktx | make sure "map program changes" is enabled | 18:40 |
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| ahellquist|studi | falktx: I tried all map changes I used to mess with | 18:40 |
| falktx | there's an extra option that needs to be OFF | 18:40 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: done that too | 18:41 |
| falktx | does the plugin show a list of midi programs in the combo-box? | 18:41 |
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| ahellquist|studi | falktx: bypassed the midi-split too | 18:41 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: Yes | 18:41 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: both mentiond plugins do list programs | 18:42 |
| falktx | it's working here | 18:44 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: great | 18:44 |
| falktx | ahellquist|studi: do you perhaps have "midi control channel" set to N ? | 18:45 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: I have tried both N and a channel | 18:45 |
| falktx | the program mapping will work via that channel | 18:45 |
| falktx | if you set it to chan 2, midi-program changes on chan 2 will change the plugin program | 18:45 |
| falktx | it's working here in patchbay mode | 18:46 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: I have not found any information about these settings.. I have changed to the same ch as my external controller but no changes.. | 18:46 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: ok, I might have to test a bit more than.. Now I know Carla is not broken.. probably | 18:47 |
| falktx | which process mode are you using? | 18:48 |
| falktx | ahellquist|studi: did you try a midi-monitor tool to make sure the program-change event is being sent? | 18:48 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: dont know, I am running carla-git in standalone mod.. I can check the if pgm-change is sent to the plugin.. | 18:49 |
| ahellquist|studi | s/mod/mode | 18:49 |
| falktx | some midi-dump/monitor tool | 18:50 |
| falktx | like jack_midi_dump | 18:50 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: I am checking | 18:51 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: seems to work now, funny, sorry for the noice and thanks for the help | 18:53 |
| falktx | :magic: | 18:53 |
| falktx | :) | 18:53 |
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| ahellquist|studi | falktx: there is no way to send pgm-change if noice mak3r is behind midi-split on ch10. If my external midi keyboard is set to send on ch10 my plugin will not recieve the pgm-change even if midi-split is set to N and send pgm-change is set/unset | 20:01 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: midi-snoop after midi-split is not detecting pgm-changes | 20:04 |
| falktx | hmm | 20:06 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: yep, :) | 20:07 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: midi-split has been slowing me down before.. really uesful when it does what it's suposed to do | 20:09 |
| falktx | the midi-split is not passing through midi programs | 20:09 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: ok, and that is a feature or a bug ? | 20:09 |
| falktx | bug | 20:10 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: good :) | 20:10 |
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| ahellquist|studi | falktx: I will wait patiently for any bug fix, so no hurry and thanks for confirming the bug. Do you want me to file a ticket ? | 20:13 |
| falktx | I'm looking at this now | 20:13 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: oh, nice | 20:14 |
| falktx | I implemented this for lv2 but not internal plugs | 20:15 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: ok, so the this implementation will affect all internal plugs and not only midi-split ? | 20:16 |
| falktx | yes | 20:18 |
| falktx | all the internal midi plugins were affected | 20:18 |
| ahellquist|studi | falktx: really great | 20:18 |
| falktx | sometimes I forget these little things... | 20:23 |
| falktx | fixed https://github.com/falkTX/Carla/commit/e6dc9c7310c90d9d44b4eec022fde4145dbb79f6 | 20:23 |
| falktx | ahellquist|studi: carla-git update coming your way :) | 20:33 |
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| ahellquist|studi | thelonius: tell falktx ahellquist appreciate the fixed internal midi-plugins a lot. thanks | 23:33 |
| thelonius | ahellquist|studi: I'll pass that on when falktx is around. | 23:33 |
| ahellquist|studi | thelonius: tell falktx ahellquist have not yet tested the fix so do not take this as a confirmation yet... | 23:37 |
| thelonius | ahellquist|studi: I'll pass that on when falktx is around. | 23:37 |
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