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| swineytoad | /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER swineytoad lnuluuqcggew | 01:00 |
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| swineytoad | pffft | 01:00 |
| swineytoad | anyone alive? | 01:06 |
| holstein | yes | 01:17 |
| holstein | swineytoad: you need to change your password | 01:17 |
| swineytoad | ? | 01:21 |
| holstein | 21:00 < swineytoad> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER swineytoad lnuluuqcggew | 01:21 |
| holstein | "yes" i am, here, and alive, and so are others | 01:21 |
| swineytoad | was that not just a verification code... my paswprdos/ npt that | 01:21 |
| holstein | and, you leaked creds, so, be sure you change them | 01:22 |
| swineytoad | doh | 01:22 |
| swineytoad | hey im basically wondering why i spent hours getting my sound to work... shut down, boot up and its like allis reset | 01:23 |
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| swineytoad | but afk a sec while i fix some idiocy of mine you kindly pointed out =) | 01:24 |
| holstein | swineytoad: sounds like whatever you "set" wasnt persisten | 01:24 |
| holstein | persistent* | 01:24 |
| holstein | also, the alsa names and devices can change, so, devices can migrate | 01:24 |
| holstein | you can, for example, have a device that is "configured" with jack, an external usb device, working just fine, and reboot, and those names change, and you are actually now trying to use a *different* device with the same config, which is not working | 01:25 |
| swineytoad | aye, but wouldnt eems a hdd install would act like that... that last tid bit was enlightening, but to me, cryptic | 01:25 |
| holstein | you really shouldnt need to spend hours getting "sound" to work | 01:25 |
| swineytoad | right right | 01:25 |
| holstein | are you interested in audio production? if not, just get something without JACK | 01:26 |
| swineytoad | it was more like an hour, i focused on the wrong area a while | 01:26 |
| holstein | swineytoad: sure.. alsa is the sound server.. alsa gives labels, and they can change | 01:26 |
| swineytoad | nah im a semi pri bessist ad electronic musiciand | 01:26 |
| holstein | so, do you need jack? | 01:27 |
| holstein | if you do, you'll just have to learn about configuring it | 01:27 |
| holstein | i say, the "easy" way, as a beginner, is to just make sure you only have *one* audio device | 01:27 |
| holstein | even if that means only using the internal audio device to start learning the tools | 01:27 |
| holstein | i find a lot of time, a user buys a computer, with windows on it, they spend years using it, as is, slowing learning to configure and add software. then, at some point, they get an audio device, and add that to the system, again, slowly learning how to use it | 01:28 |
| holstein | then, at some point, that user can try and, for some reason, try to switch the underlying OS to linux, and expect to "magically" just get to the same place that literally took them years of time and experience to get to | 01:29 |
| swineytoad | ill read up. the sitution was kmix, hydrogen settings to get sound to acually come out new to k and fairly new to linux et al | 01:29 |
| holstein | i say, if you can, try and take it slow, and add things simply, cleanly,and methodically, so you can see what the issues are | 01:29 |
| swineytoad | nah not like that | 01:29 |
| swineytoad | im not trying to be lay guy,and i have a fortune worht of no startch press boocks | 01:30 |
| holstein | it can be helpful *only* have one audio device on the machine.. you can disable the internal in the bios, or remove it if its a card, or blacklist | 01:30 |
| swineytoad | right righ | 01:30 |
| holstein | 21:30 < swineytoad> im not trying to be lay guy,and i have a fortune worht of no startch press boocks | 01:30 |
| holstein | ^ i dont know what that means | 01:30 |
| swineytoad | sorry my ex spilled some ice cream on this keyboard, need to replace it [laptop] | 01:31 |
| holstein | no worries.. | 01:32 |
| swineytoad | no starch press make some pretty nifty boocks on linux unix an bas OSs, as well as python ruby, pen test... | 01:32 |
| holstein | cool | 01:33 |
| swineytoad | and i mean "laZy" | 01:33 |
| holstein | if its not about jack and alsa specifically, you'll do better just researching the net | 01:33 |
| holstein | .g ardour configuring jack | 01:33 |
| swineytoad | bas... err bsd =/ | 01:33 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlhhlCrCAYc | 01:33 |
| LAbot | Title: Configuring the JACK Daemon and Ardour DAW on Ubuntu Linux - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) | 01:33 |
| holstein | .g kxstudio | 01:33 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ | 01:33 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio (at kxstudio.sourceforge.net) | 01:33 |
| swineytoad | im not try to be mister "why USTFE when i can waste your time!" heh | 01:34 |
| holstein | believe me, you wont waste my time | 01:35 |
| holstein | im too busy | 01:35 |
| holstein | im just making suggestions that helped me get from "i spent hours trying to get my audio working with jack" to "i'll load a live iso and start using ardour and getting work done in a few minutes" | 01:36 |
| holstein | that being, locking down the config of the devices, and knowing the tools are are common to all linux distros | 01:36 |
| holstein | if you read above, and want to try using *only* one audio device, i think you'll find that helpful | 01:37 |
| holstein | if you havent yet, then, thats what i still think is a good first step | 01:37 |
| swineytoad | basically i was just baffled i messed with and saved a hyrogen proj, after messing with its setting and system settings nd thought i still m not sure why or how i can get persistece there (i thought that would be... reliable to be a persistent system cnfg, as i dd it with root | 01:38 |
| swineytoad | great, thanks | 01:38 |
| holstein | well, remove hydrogen from the euqation altogether | 01:38 |
| holstein | just get the audio working, with jack | 01:38 |
| holstein | then *all* audio will be working | 01:39 |
| holstein | you should have no need to "dd" anything as root | 01:39 |
| holstein | did you install kxstudio? | 01:39 |
| swineytoad | i typed that staring at a keyboard heh, as you answerwed questions i was yet to ask/responded to facts id yet to cllarify =]ya | 01:40 |
| swineytoad | yes | 01:40 |
| holstein | then, what did you dd? and why? | 01:40 |
| holstein | installing kxstudio should be an installation process. not dd'ing as root from anything to anything.. what did you dd? | 01:41 |
| swineytoad | im so new to lnu i dont even know what dd means =/ | 01:42 |
| holstein | swineytoad: sure.. you said you had dd copied as root.. what did you dd copy as root? | 01:42 |
| holstein | .g dd linux command | 01:42 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix) | 01:42 |
| swineytoad | windows since 1994 makes me ... reading linu book i like DO from hell, but wanna jumpin the fire! =P | 01:43 |
| holstein | sure.. jump where ever you like | 01:43 |
| holstein | just dont expect magic :) | 01:43 |
| holstein | you didnt just jump into windows in 94.. thats my only advice.. take it slow like you did back then | 01:44 |
| swineytoad | right o | 01:44 |
| swineytoad | and ahh dd i gotcha... the disk seemed to do all that (mening...) | 01:45 |
| holstein | mening? | 01:45 |
| swineytoad | meaning... (ive mre say might take a sec, i hate typing on laptop boards =0} | 01:46 |
| swineytoad | kxstudio ISO>disk>disk wipe[as far as available data is concerned, this box is only kx) | 01:48 |
| swineytoad | killed all partitions. | 01:48 |
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