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| WTS | hi folks | 02:31 |
| WTS | anyone here using/used a behringer u-phoria umc404 with linux? | 02:32 |
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| holstein | WTS: i heard it was "class compliant".. how is it working for you? | 03:11 |
| blik71 | i cant find wineasio as a package and also the software manager wont update | 03:17 |
| holstein | blik71: ok | 03:18 |
| holstein | blik71: *stop* trying to install anything til you check a few things.. you can use a paste to share your output | 03:18 |
| holstein | .g pastebin | 03:19 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://pastebin.com/ | 03:19 |
| blik71 | holstein: ok | 03:19 |
| holstein | open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update".. share errors.. if any | 03:19 |
| blik71 | okay there were no errors | 03:22 |
| holstein | blik71: *then*, you run "sudp apt-get dist-uprade" and share errors.. | 03:23 |
| blik71 | paste here or on pastebin?? | 03:25 |
| holstein | blik71: i suggested already a pastebin.. | 03:25 |
| blik71 | sorry i've never used it before | 03:26 |
| holstein | blik71: you would go to http://pastebin.com/ | 03:27 |
| holstein | http://pastebin.com/Y7mndsnv | 03:27 |
| holstein | blik71: paste in some text and hit submit | 03:27 |
| holstein | then, you share the linux with the special URL to the information | 03:27 |
| blik71 | http://pastebin.com/1YS6CMUW | 03:29 |
| holstein | when you read.. | 03:29 |
| holstein | You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. | 03:29 |
| holstein | did you? | 03:29 |
| holstein | in a terminal, try "sudo apt-get -f install" as per the message you have | 03:30 |
| blik71 | i did and I got this message | 03:30 |
| blik71 | http://pastebin.com/9BeBJfrv | 03:31 |
| holstein | blik71: "sudo" | 03:32 |
| holstein | 22:30 < holstein> in a terminal, try "sudo apt-get -f install" as per the message you have | 03:32 |
| holstein | blik71: you'll need to close any other package managers. you shouldnt have any open.. | 03:33 |
| blik71 | it updated now anupdate pop up appeared as well | 03:35 |
| blik71 | *and an update | 03:35 |
| holstein | blik71: ? | 03:37 |
| holstein | blik71: i *never* stated to interact with any popups | 03:37 |
| blik71 | i didnt | 03:38 |
| holstein | blik71: please close *everything* else.. *all* other package managers | 03:38 |
| holstein | blik71: use the terminal, and run those commands, til there are no errors | 03:38 |
| holstein | blik71: please run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and paste any errors.. | 03:38 |
| holstein | sudo = run as root.. with permission to install and manage packages.. apt-get is the tool being used | 03:39 |
| holstein | .g apt-get wiki | 03:39 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool | 03:39 |
| LAbot | Title: Advanced Packaging Tool - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) | 03:39 |
| holstein | dist-upgrade is the part that tells apt what to do. which is, upgrade all the packages available.. across all the sources that you have | 03:39 |
| blik71 | i ran the command and its is updating now | 03:39 |
| holstein | ok.. *then*, i would personally reboot, *if* there is a kernel update.. and *then*, address the other issue, which, i will need to you to elaborate aout | 03:40 |
| holstein | about* | 03:40 |
| holstein | seems like, you likely are trying to use some windows software or hardware that is not supporting linux | 03:40 |
| blik71 | okay well the other issue is about the wineasio installation, whenever i try to regisster the dll file i get the "failed to load file" error | 03:42 |
| holstein | blik71: sure, you will | 03:42 |
| holstein | blik71: its not a linux thing | 03:42 |
| holstein | blik71: thats a windows thing | 03:42 |
| holstein | you are not using windows | 03:42 |
| holstein | at best, you can find a hack with wine to use *some* windows software.. with compromises | 03:42 |
| holstein | its not a limitation of linux that it cant run code thats not created for it | 03:43 |
| holstein | its the same as taking a linux tarball over to windows.. its not a limitation of windows that it wont run | 03:43 |
| holstein | maybe try giving me the big picture on what you are trying to do | 03:44 |
| spectromas | wut | 03:44 |
| blik71 | so wineasio isn't supported anymore then, because I was tring to get reaper to run as many users stated that they were able to get it working very well with wineasio in stalled with wine | 03:44 |
| blik71 | *installed | 03:45 |
| holstein | blik71: so, again, what are you trying to do? *specifically*.. just run reaper? | 03:45 |
| spectromas | blik71: you're getting wrong information, you can use wineasio, your problem has nothing to do with windows not supporting linux | 03:45 |
| holstein | .g winehq reaper | 03:45 |
| thelonius | holstein: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3336 | 03:45 |
| LAbot | Title: WineHQ - Reaper (at appdb.winehq.org) | 03:45 |
| holstein | yeah.. your are doing it wrong, to try and run reaper in linux | 03:45 |
| spectromas | I think he wants help, not a lecture | 03:46 |
| Mr-Jonze | blik - i dont think you mentioned your actual end goal - so it should probably be said - in order to save you much headaches - that whatever the windows program you are trying to maky work in linux - there is probably a linux program that does the same things that you could install in a minute | 03:46 |
| holstein | spectromas: sure.. go for it.. since its an open channel, i wont stop any help. or lectures. | 03:46 |
| holstein | spectromas: if you have an issue, you can take it to PM, or whatever you feel you need to do.. im just stating facts | 03:46 |
| WTS | holstein: i am seriously considering getting that unit, it's got all the ins/outs and midi i need + audio interface | 03:46 |
| WTS | but i read some people claiming it doesn't work on win8 | 03:46 |
| WTS | which to me sounds iffy | 03:47 |
| holstein | WTS: i would, since i dont have first hand experience, make sure you can return it. but, it was reported to be "class compliant" | 03:47 |
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| spectromas | holstein: you're just lecturing and not really listening to what he is saying, it's a common problem and not an unusual or unsupported thing to try and do | 03:47 |
| tczern | Hi again, with LXDE, how can I have two different wallpapers on a dual monitor setup? | 03:47 |
| holstein | spectromas: cool.. if you can help, do so. otherwise, i dont use reaper.. im only able to address "registering dll's" and how that wont work | 03:48 |
| Mr-Jonze | blik - ah yes reaper - linux has many DAWs - you can try qtracktor or ardour is more advanced | 03:48 |
| holstein | spectromas: im not meaning to "lecture" at anyone.. its just facts, that i think are helpful.. such as the wineHQ link that should explain.. | 03:48 |
| spectromas | why lecture if you don't know what he is talking about then | 03:48 |
| spectromas | blik71: have a google around, it's a common problem, http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8001 http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Installing_and_configuring_WineASIO | 03:49 |
| LAbot | Title: LinuxMusicians View topic - Problems registering wineasio.dll (at www.linuxmusicians.com) | 03:49 |
| blik71 | I know that there are alternative softwares that canbe used as DAW's in linux but the reson I would like to get reaper as well as other programs such as FL studio cause I am most comfortable with those two DAW's and i would like to avoid the learning curve that comes with some new software | 03:49 |
| Mr-Jonze | tczern - have you found the "desktop settings" - it does not allow multiple desktops ? | 03:50 |
| blik71 | if possible | 03:50 |
| spectromas | blik71: you should try to catch JackWinter, he knows about using reaper | 03:50 |
| WTS | holstein: thanks, it didn't mention that at all in the product description. if i get it i can easily return it if it is unsatisfactory | 03:51 |
| tczern | Mr-Jonze, I am lost, somehow, yesterday, I managed to put a different wallpaper on my left screen, now i wanted to change this and cannot find the tool that allowed me to do this. | 03:51 |
| holstein | WTS: or maybe get lucky and find it locally somewhere they would let you plug in | 03:51 |
| holstein | nothing about linux or kxstudio is preventing repear from running on it.. | 03:52 |
| holstein | not to start a lecture. just a fact.. | 03:52 |
| tczern | using arandr for multiple desks. | 03:52 |
| tczern | glitch? | 03:52 |
| tczern | where is the config file? | 03:52 |
| Mr-Jonze | right-click the desktop are and choose "desktop settings" | 03:53 |
| tczern | yep | 03:53 |
| Mr-Jonze | is also under "preferences menu" | 03:53 |
| tczern | changes effect only my left screen | 03:53 |
| tczern | so how the heck could I glue a different wallpaper to my right screen? | 03:54 |
| Mr-Jonze | i really dont know - but you say you did it mus be possible | 03:54 |
| spectromas | holstein: no one is saying that kxstudio is preventing it from running. That doesn't mean the user knows how to make everything work | 03:54 |
| tczern | lol | 03:54 |
| Mr-Jonze | if all else fails lxde is completely configurable via flat text files mostly xml | 03:55 |
| tczern | ok, I thought I was retarding the last 24 hours | 03:55 |
| holstein | spectromas: cool.. just say what you think is helpful, and i'll do the same.. and i'll not step on your toes, and you can back off mine.. fair? | 03:55 |
| holstein | spectromas: i mean, you should know me, by now.. i promise, my intentions are not bad.. its not easy installing DAW's typically in linux and using them when they *are* supported | 03:56 |
| holstein | installing reaper in linux with wine is not a "new user" thing to take on.. i personally prefer outlining what the frustrations are, and why they are there.. | 03:56 |
| spectromas | not stepping on anyone's toes holstein, I just know how frustrating it is when you need help and get someone telling you to use a different daw/distro/whatever | 03:57 |
| blik71 | as the terminal updates it has said this twice | 03:57 |
| holstein | srue | 03:57 |
| holstein | sure*.. thats why i didnt say anything about using a different one | 03:57 |
| tczern | checkbox: "use the same wallpaper on all desktops" it doesn't matter if this is checked or not | 03:58 |
| holstein | tczern: there can be little things like that that dont work well | 03:58 |
| Mr-Jonze | i just found for example ~/.config/monitors.xml that is apparently how you can configure multiple monitors without arandr | 03:59 |
| tczern | can I change this manually in a configuration file? if so, where is that file? | 03:59 |
| holstein | .g nitrogen wallpaper | 04:00 |
| thelonius | holstein: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/nitrogen | 04:00 |
| LAbot | Title: Nitrogen - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org) | 04:00 |
| Mr-Jonze | yes that checkbox is probably what you want - perhaps close that window and re-open it - or reboot | 04:00 |
| holstein | you can try nitrogen.. | 04:00 |
| Mr-Jonze | yes in lxde you can manually change everything via text files | 04:00 |
| blik71 | http://pastebin.com/dwSTKki3 if thisis relevent | 04:00 |
| Mr-Jonze | where that particular one is i am not sure - but there is probably another channel with peeps that do know - #lxde probably | 04:01 |
| Mr-Jonze | certainly you could ask on a forum or RTFM | 04:01 |
| holstein | blik71: http://askubuntu.com/questions/456183/what-does-unknown-media-type-in-type-all-all-mean is what i get when i search | 04:02 |
| LAbot | Title: package management - What does Unknown media type in type all/all mean? - Ask Ubuntu (at askubuntu.com) | 04:02 |
| Mr-Jonze | if it were me i would first search the webs for "lxde multiple wallpaper" | 04:02 |
| holstein | i think i would reference the bug report, first.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shared-mime-info/+bug/289592 | 04:02 |
| WTS | holstein: that is actually a great idea, I will see if i can borrow one. it's not like I don't know any DJs :D | 04:02 |
| LAbot | Title: Bug #289592 “Unknown media types in /usr/share/mime/packages/kde...” : Bugs : shared-mime-info package : Ubuntu (at bugs.launchpad.net) | 04:03 |
| holstein | blik71: its not related to anything with repear | 04:03 |
| blik71 | it finished updating but at the end it said " | 04:03 |
| blik71 | WARNING: Skipping duplicate certificate Go_Daddy_Class_2_CA.pem | 04:03 |
| blik71 | 17 added, 8 removed; done. | 04:03 |
| tczern | it supports a dual monitor wallpaper! "Stretch to fill the complete screen" and arrange with arandr, that's cool! Even better, KDE cannot do this | 04:03 |
| Mr-Jonze | blik - regarding DAWs - they are all VERY similar - if you are familiar with reaper you should have not much trouble using qtractor or ardour | 04:05 |
| tczern | I agree | 04:05 |
| Mr-Jonze | right now you are experiencing the unix learning curve which is much steeper | 04:05 |
| holstein | hey... if one wants to use repear, i say, go for it.. i just wouldnt expect magic using software that is made for windows in linux.. | 04:06 |
| holstein | i would expect to *really* read some information, like what spectromas posted.. and i would talk to folks who use is, such as JackWinter , who spectromas suggested | 04:06 |
| holstein | otherwise, use windows code in windows, and linux code in linux, and enjoy an easier of things.. | 04:07 |
| tczern | I loaded Reaper, don't get the hipe about it. I am used to Digital Performer and Ardour works nice for what I do too | 04:07 |
| holstein | and.. that concludes my lecuture series ;) | 04:07 |
| WTS | holstein: yeah I tried traktor 3, got it running actually, finally, on PClinusOS, not KX... then of course the sound card of my mixer aint recognized and no wineASIO will install. boo! :P | 04:07 |
| tczern | you can also try Bitwig, comes native for linux now | 04:07 |
| spectromas | yeah JackWinter or AlexRussia (?) if he is around are the people to speak to, it runs very well as as far as I know the reaper folks do everything they can to make it work well in wine | 04:07 |
| spectromas | it's not like asking to use ableton in wine | 04:07 |
| WTS | eh you can | 04:07 |
| WTS | just get renoise | 04:08 |
| WTS | install a few LUA extensions | 04:08 |
| spectromas | ^ | 04:08 |
| WTS | this one guy basically ported ableton to renoise | 04:08 |
| WTS | then kept adding features | 04:08 |
| spectromas | live dive? | 04:08 |
| WTS | cells iirc | 04:08 |
| spectromas | oh yeah | 04:08 |
| tczern | bitwig is just lke ableton | 04:08 |
| WTS | im buying a license when my new midi plank arrives | 04:08 |
| WTS | got the last one off a stack that was slashed from 159e to 14,95 | 04:09 |
| spectromas | renoise is pretty amazing, the more I dig in to it the more I realize it can do | 04:09 |
| WTS | yeah man | 04:09 |
| WTS | i used a few DAWs but renoise just keeps enticing me | 04:09 |
| WTS | you can now DJ with it as well with plugins | 04:09 |
| WTS | and just trackers in general appeal to me | 04:10 |
| WTS | also cheap (60euros), LONG upgrade support | 04:10 |
| WTS | and linux native | 04:10 |
| holstein | lets say, i wanted to try a "Tracker" in the repos.. what would i fire up? | 04:10 |
| spectromas | same here, I never really considered them until I discovered I didn't like linux's free daws and wasn't left with much other choice | 04:11 |
| spectromas | which repos? | 04:11 |
| WTS | KX? try milkytracker or renoise. or is renoise no longer in it? | 04:11 |
| WTS | i'm installing manjaro today (tomorrow :P) | 04:12 |
| spectromas | holstein: sunvox is gratis but I don't think it is in kxstudio repos now as it's not free | 04:12 |
| spectromas | think falk had one he ported like protrekker or something? | 04:12 |
| WTS | will be KXing by proxy soon | 04:12 |
| holstein | .g ubuntu milkytracker | 04:12 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://milkytracker.org/?download | 04:12 |
| LAbot | Title: MilkyTracker Downloads (at milkytracker.org) | 04:12 |
| Mr-Jonze | seems the biggest apprehension windows audio ppl have switching to nix is "... but i payed good money for the one i have now - now if i use open source tools i wasted my money" | 04:12 |
| holstein | yup | 04:12 |
| WTS | heheh | 04:13 |
| holstein | if one bought a system76 machine, and renoise.. or other $$ software, it would just be the same | 04:13 |
| WTS | well, the VST one paid for should work | 04:13 |
| spectromas | holstein: there's also radium, it's very nice but not really for a beginner I think. Just go for renoise, it really is miles ahead of everything | 04:13 |
| WTS | yeah, and extensible, excellent support too | 04:13 |
| holstein | spectromas: well, i just want to check it out.. i know i dont need renoise.. it looked great, but, its just not what i need.. | 04:13 |
| holstein | nice fast UI too | 04:14 |
| holstein | and that was years ago i looked at the demo.. i bet its better now | 04:14 |
| WTS | about:blank | 04:14 |
| WTS | ugh | 04:14 |
| WTS | sec | 04:14 |
| holstein | i mean.. i still use ardour2.. mixbus based on ardour2.. | 04:14 |
| WTS | damn clipboard | 04:14 |
| spectromas | I like the fact it has a reasonable price as well, I don't mind paying $50 for software I think is amazing. not 250$ | 04:14 |
| WTS | http://www.renoise.com/blog/10-ways-to-extend-renoises-internal-sequencer | 04:14 |
| LAbot | Title: 10 Ways to Extend Renoises Internal Sequencer | Renoise (at www.renoise.com) | 04:14 |
| holstein | i got mixbux on sale in that price range as well | 04:15 |
| spectromas | yeah that's another that's worth the price I think | 04:15 |
| tczern | holstein: would you say Mixbus sounds different than Ardour? I am not sure if I should get it in adition to Ardour | 04:19 |
| holstein | tczern: i say, there is really no reason to get mixbus unless you want what is added to ardour | 04:20 |
| holstein | the harrison tape saturation DSP stuff.. thats it.. otherwise, its ardour.. | 04:20 |
| tczern | that's what I thought | 04:21 |
| holstein | i actually like the work flow and the UI.. and i find it actually helps me be a little faster.. like, EQ's integrated.. comp.. limiting.. etc | 04:21 |
| holstein | none of that is unique to mixbus.. its just laid out well.. and looks like a console | 04:21 |
| tczern | you an have a template with Ardour | 04:21 |
| holstein | its is ardour.. ardour2 | 04:21 |
| holstein | you can open projects both ways with it.. | 04:21 |
| holstein | all that being said, i like the harrison dsp stuff in it.. | 04:22 |
| holstein | i think its a great value.. i just dont think one should necessarily be thinking "ardour or mixbus".. | 04:22 |
| tczern | $39 right now | 04:23 |
| tczern | no demo | 04:23 |
| holstein | yup.. its the ardour 2 based one | 04:23 |
| holstein | if you do a lot of midi, you'll want the A3 based one.. | 04:24 |
| tczern | that I want | 04:24 |
| holstein | but, its always an option to bounce into it.. or, take a stems export from A3, and go to mixbus2 | 04:24 |
| tczern | tape sat or not doesn't make your music better, listen to Tom Waits and his lofi stuff, says it all | 04:25 |
| holstein | sure.. "better" is always just that.. your opinion of if you find it better or not | 04:25 |
| holstein | i prefer the mixbus dsp's.. so i use them.. they are worth 40 bucks, for sure | 04:25 |
| WTS | holy **** i can get renoise using iDeal | 04:26 |
| holstein | they wont solve world hunger, or get you a job.. or do any magic ;) | 04:26 |
| tczern | cool, 40 is really not a lot for it | 04:26 |
| WTS | f*ck it i'm ordering now | 04:26 |
| holstein | man.. is that *another* lecture? | 04:26 |
| WTS | i love it when i can pay using iDeal | 04:27 |
| WTS | :D | 04:27 |
| WTS | i support the hell out of that | 04:27 |
| WTS | (pay w/ debit card instead of needing credit card) | 04:27 |
| tczern | you need Valerian dude | 04:28 |
| WTS | who, me? | 04:29 |
| WTS | actually, not a bad idea, i got some lying around :P | 04:29 |
| tczern | yep, so exited that even I am happy for you, | 04:30 |
| blik71 | i think ill just give up trying to get wine asio to work and try out some of the native daw's | 04:32 |
| tczern | blik71, I tried asio for wine, didn't work, I think I read somewhere it's not supported anymore | 04:32 |
| blik71 | what are some setups you guys use? | 04:33 |
| spectromas | wineasio does work | 04:33 |
| WTS | you could try the old livedisk | 04:33 |
| WTS | i hear that has excellent wineasio integration | 04:33 |
| WTS | reaper working out of the box | 04:33 |
| blik71 | hmmm what version? | 04:34 |
| tczern | I use Carla to load some windows Vst, and route it to Ardour | 04:34 |
| tczern | I wonder if Digital Performer may run in wine | 04:35 |
| blik71 | now i cant run ardour -_- | 04:42 |
| blik71 | it says failed to reconnect to midi engine | 04:42 |
| holstein | blik71: i say, maybe just wait a bit, and try and learn the linux system, first... maybe try using a simpler application in wine.. kick the tires a bit | 04:43 |
| holstein | i usually try and "lecture" about seperating out as much as you can in the beginning.. so one is not learning so much at once | 04:44 |
| holstein | for example, you probably didnt pop off to the store, and pick up a windows box, bring it home, and immediately install reaper, and start working with a new audio device.. | 04:44 |
| tczern | lol | 04:44 |
| holstein | its something where, usually, a user has spent years getting to a nice high level of expertise with a lot of specilized pieces of software and hardware. and, they want to just jump right over to a new one | 04:45 |
| holstein | i can say, what did me best was spending about a year on a laptop in linux.. not dual booting.. just linux. i didnt do *any* audio production on that rig at all | 04:45 |
| WTS | blik71: I agree with holstein. trying to 'recapture' the way windows worked (in my case Traktor 3) just didn't work at all like i'd imagined. | 04:45 |
| holstein | all i did was just use the operating system.. copy files to USB sticks.. connect to wifi access points.. fix updates that broke.. and try and learn about the drivers and all that.. | 04:46 |
| holstein | *then*, when i got around to trying to make JACK work and firewire audio. and ardour.. i had a working knowlege of the underlying system.. | 04:46 |
| blik71 | well I'll ty and just give the linux daw's a chance but ardour is giving me problems now as well lol | 04:47 |
| blik71 | and get used to the os envireonment | 04:47 |
| holstein | yup.. its not gtrivial | 04:47 |
| holstein | trivial* | 04:47 |
| tczern | for me it was the other way around, I figure first out how to make music in Linux (because I am so incredible impatient) and then I learned how to deal with the OS | 04:47 |
| holstein | what do i do? i usually run live iso's for a long time .. so i can experiement, and not break anything | 04:47 |
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| blik71 | tczern: that's exactly how i feel lol | 04:48 |
| tczern | And I bet you hate to read manuals | 04:49 |
| blik71 | only if there not relevant | 04:50 |
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| tczern | are you using ardor 403? | 04:51 |
| tczern | pay 1$ and get the latest built, less headache | 04:53 |
| tczern | or check on the nightly builts | 04:53 |
| holstein | he's gone | 04:53 |
| holstein | though, falk usually has the latest in the repos.. | 04:53 |
| tczern | haha | 04:53 |
| holstein | i just get it from the site as well | 04:53 |
| tczern | didn't notice | 04:53 |
| tczern | wait, something better than 403 in the repos? | 04:54 |
| holstein | i never said "better" | 04:54 |
| tczern | newer | 04:54 |
| holstein | what i said was, in response to "just buy the latest from ardour" | 04:54 |
| holstein | which, is a great supportive idea.. | 04:54 |
| tczern | yep | 04:55 |
| holstein | but, falk usually builds the latest in the kxstudio repos | 04:55 |
| holstein | so, you *can* just get the latest in the normal kxstudio soures | 04:55 |
| tczern | I have KXstudio with 403 | 04:55 |
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| tczern | installed it two weeks ago | 04:56 |
| holstein | right.. what im saying is.. falk builds the latest | 04:56 |
| holstein | falk makes kxstudio | 04:56 |
| holstein | he gets the source, from ardour, and builds it for his sources for kxstudio | 04:56 |
| tczern | i got that, THANK YOU FALK!!! | 04:56 |
| holstein | so, if you want the latest, you *can* just get it from the sources | 04:56 |
| holstein | though, again.. its nice to support las | 04:57 |
| tczern | I want one that doesn't make me made | 04:57 |
| tczern | mad | 04:57 |
| holstein | tczern: its the same, is my point | 04:57 |
| blik71 | whenever i try and run ardour it says failed to reconnect to audio/midi engine | 04:57 |
| holstein | your anger level isnt related to hardware or software ;) | 04:57 |
| holstein | blik71: sure, friend.. where? | 04:57 |
| holstein | blik71: why? is that a problem? an error? or a message? is this kxstudio? | 04:57 |
| tczern | I probably subscribe, apple alienated me, and windows is rebooting all the fu&(*ing time | 04:58 |
| blik71 | yes in kx studio and when i try and start a new session it gives me that error | 04:58 |
| tczern | check cadence | 04:58 |
| tczern | jack running? | 04:58 |
| blik71 | yeah jack won't start | 04:59 |
| tczern | there are also settings for the midi bridge and all that | 04:59 |
| holstein | blik71: jack is required | 04:59 |
| tczern | wrong card selection | 04:59 |
| holstein | so its not, for example, a problem with ardour.. its with jack config | 04:59 |
| tczern | if Jack isn't running that Ardour tells you to go to .. | 04:59 |
| blik71 | yeah for some reason jack switched my card | 04:59 |
| holstein | blik71: they can "jump" at boot time | 05:00 |
| holstein | what do i do? disable any other unwanted devices.. like internal audio devices | 05:00 |
| holstein | then, i just have the one device.. | 05:00 |
| blik71 | do u do that in the alsamixer interface? | 05:01 |
| holstein | blik71: disable? i do it in the bios, or i phyically remove the device | 05:01 |
| tczern | http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/M-Audio_Quattro | 05:01 |
| blik71 | oh okay | 05:01 |
| tczern | Ensuring the quattro gets the same "device identifier" at each boot | 05:01 |
| holstein | blik71: otherwise, you cac set the device in kxstudio | 05:01 |
| holstein | can* | 05:01 |
| tczern | also instructions how to blacklist devices | 05:02 |
| tczern | worked for me | 05:02 |
| holstein | yup,. you can blacklist.. same effect | 05:02 |
| tczern | I tried Linuxsampler on Windows, on OSX, and it runs best, omg, in LINUX! | 05:05 |
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| tczern | what plugin simulates tap saturation? | 05:13 |
| holstein | tape? | 05:13 |
| tczern | yes | 05:13 |
| holstein | any compressor.. EQ.. etc | 05:13 |
| tczern | I was just looking at TAP Tube Warmth | 05:14 |
| holstein | sure.. try it and see if you like it | 05:14 |
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| tczern | hi again, LXDE acts a bit weird, I had one huge wallpaper spannin over two monitors in one work session, that managed to have two different backgrounds on both monitors, and all gone now again, just like that, my previous settings don't work anymore. glitches?? | 21:21 |
| holstein | tczern: i say, you'll need to get involved in an lxde community | 21:21 |
| holstein | when i want to use lxde, i want light.. meaning, no "whizzbang" | 21:22 |
| tczern | I'd like to have something nicer than a black background | 21:22 |
| holstein | i literally dont care if i have a wallpaper.. i usually just want a light environment to take as little resources as possible while i do what i need manually | 21:22 |
| holstein | tczern: sure. and you can | 21:22 |
| holstein | tczern: how did nitrogen work for you? | 21:22 |
| tczern | I have one screen now with a black background, | 21:23 |
| tczern | what's nitrogen | 21:23 |
| holstein | tczern: its the wallpaper manager i suggested you try last time you were having an issue with your wallpaper in lxde | 21:23 |
| holstein | .g wallpaper nitrogen | 21:23 |
| thelonius | holstein: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/nitrogen | 21:23 |
| LAbot | Title: Nitrogen - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org) | 21:23 |
| tczern | hm, arandr you suggested, I must have missed nitro | 21:23 |
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| tczern | nitro doesn't help, but thanks | 21:27 |
| holstein | nitrogen* | 21:27 |
| holstein | tczern: and, if used properly, it will | 21:27 |
| tczern | I know | 21:27 |
| holstein | otherwise, consider starting with something that addresses an lxde desktop for you.. like lubuntu | 21:28 |
| tczern | I typed nitrogen in the konsole, got a little gui, whatever I try here has no effect | 21:28 |
| holstein | you can alway try installing "lubuntu-desktop" | 21:28 |
| AutoStatic | With LXDE pcmanfm shoudl set the background | 21:29 |
| holstein | yup.. out of the box.. | 21:29 |
| holstein | though, i did, personally, have issues with dual head and lxde in avlinux | 21:29 |
| holstein | since i was doing audio production, i just went with the black screen | 21:30 |
| tczern | what can pcmanfm do about my wallpaper? | 21:30 |
| AutoStatic | Weird, I have dual head at home, at work. All LXDE, background spans automatically | 21:30 |
| holstein | AutoStatic: i was thinking it was nvidia related, at that time | 21:30 |
| holstein | for me.. | 21:30 |
| holstein | i couldnt break it the same with any live ubuntu iso | 21:31 |
| tczern | well it's did, until a few minutes ago, it startet to show a different background in the lower half and then woosssh, all gone | 21:31 |
| holstein | yup.. i say, for you, use xfce.. or just lighten the load on kde | 21:31 |
| AutoStatic | tczern: Is pcmanfm running, the file manager? | 21:32 |
| tczern | yes | 21:32 |
| tczern | right click on desktop and I can edit those desktop settings | 21:32 |
| tczern | that's all clear | 21:32 |
| tczern | I just don't get that what worked on March 3 does not work on March 4 anymore, I didn't touch any of the system settings | 21:33 |
| AutoStatic | Then maybe there is some other wallpaper manager running in parallel | 21:34 |
| holstein | yup ^ | 21:34 |
| holstein | i would open a terminal, and try the command "pcmanfm --set-wallpaper PATH_TO_SOME_IMAGE" see what errors are there | 21:34 |
| tczern | I can see parts of my wallpaper of the left screen behind the menu panel on my right screen (it's set to opacity) how fu^&%ed is that? | 21:38 |
| holstein | tczern: what errors are there after using the command i gave? | 21:38 |
| tczern | second .. | 21:39 |
| tczern | hm, nothing, but maybe that's wrong: pcmanfm --set-wallpaper /Home/Pictures/dual-display-wallpapers-6.jpg | 21:40 |
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| tczern | should it be ~/Home ? | 21:41 |
| holstein | tczern: it should literally be the path to whatever image you are linking to | 21:42 |
| holstein | tczern: you can typically just drag an image into the terminal and get the path to autocomplete | 21:42 |
| tczern | well, that it is then, in my Home Folder | 21:42 |
| tczern | aah, will try that | 21:42 |
| holstein | you can also, as in the IRC clients, use tab to complete the path | 21:42 |
| tczern | nothing | 21:43 |
| tczern | well, I have that image on my left screen only | 21:43 |
| tczern | but no error message | 21:43 |
| holstein | tczern: ok.. so, its likely something else simply running your wallpaper after you boot | 21:44 |
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| tczern | damned, so nice, I had this moher cliff in Ireland across my desk | 21:48 |
| holstein | sure.. try XFCE, i think you'll find it a nice balance | 21:48 |
| holstein | or, try something that shipps with lxde like lubuntu | 21:48 |
| holstein | or, try an lxde channel,a nd get a pro to walk you through whats going on | 21:49 |
| holstein | you are new, and way out on an island now | 21:49 |
| holstein | not many folks install stock kxstudio and run lxde... | 21:49 |
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| tczern | haha, so in Desktop Settings, Prefs, Advanced, when I click on "use Desktop as a Folder ... " I get for a second the wallpaper also on the main screen and then it turns black again. !? | 21:50 |
| holstein | yup.. thats relevant ^ | 21:50 |
| holstein | you are likely in settings for another DE | 21:51 |
| holstein | thats the kind of little tweaks that an lxde distro would do for you | 21:51 |
| tczern | ok, I had a second set of Desktops, different settings here, no that you mentioned it, sigh.. but thanks for helping | 21:55 |
| holstein | sure.. those "ther settings" will break the lxde ones | 21:55 |
| tczern | back in Ireland, ha ha, at least on the screen, I am in Houston | 21:56 |
| holstein | i dont think its constructive to get so far out on an island as a new users | 21:56 |
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| blik71 | hey guys anyone here use lmms? | 22:05 |
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| blik71 | anyone here? | 23:49 |
| WTS | yup | 23:51 |
| blik71 | can u help me with my cadence jack setup | 23:53 |
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| blik71 | i'm having problems connecting my midi keyboard to lmms using cadence | 23:55 |
| blik71 | as well as no audio coming through my speakers | 23:55 |
| WTS | well | 23:59 |
| WTS | jack is like the one thing i never got working right | 23:59 |
| WTS | gonna try again this tomorrow when i install manjaro and then the KX packages | 23:59 |
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