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| tczern | what dock works best with KXstudio? Cairo-dock any good or unstable? | 03:29 |
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| Mr-Jonze | kxstudio is ubuntu preconfigured with kxstudio repos and fine-tuned for audio | 03:38 |
| tczern | soo? Better not using any dock? | 03:38 |
| Mr-Jonze | as far as those fancy eye candy docks i would think youd want to avoid them as they are unnecessarily cpu intensive - which should be avoided on an audio workstation | 03:39 |
| Mr-Jonze | yes thats my advice - better yet install lxde and run that instead of kde | 03:39 |
| tczern | I C, I thought that's the reason why it's not included. | 03:39 |
| tczern | lxde would be faster? | 03:41 |
| Mr-Jonze | i just installed trisquel 7.0 and the added the kxstudio packages and lxde ona 12 year old celeron and is outperforming my dual core laptop | 03:41 |
| Mr-Jonze | yes lxde is much lighter on memory and cpu | 03:41 |
| tczern | I'll try that, my pc is not that powerfull | 03:42 |
| tczern | So, when I reboot, it will ask me if I want to log on to lxde or kde? | 03:44 |
| Mr-Jonze | it wont ask - youll need to choose it from the login screen | 03:45 |
| Mr-Jonze | usually a gear icon - that will offer which desktop to use | 03:45 |
| tczern | I have no login, not asking for a password on boot, should I change that? | 03:45 |
| Mr-Jonze | that would be simplest - you can probably go back to auto login after choosing lxde once | 03:46 |
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| tczern | hhm, not sure where I can change this, not in Account Details, where is it? | 03:48 |
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| Mr-Jonze | in kde control panel there should be some setting for it - perhaps session properties or users or login | 03:49 |
| tczern | ah, found it, ok rebooting, brb | 03:50 |
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| tczern | xlde not too bad, but I use two monitors with different resolutions, how to configure those?, "Konversation" didn't start | 04:09 |
| holstein | i use "arandr" to configure whatever dual head i want | 04:09 |
| holstein | i use the terminal to start applications that i want to see more information about why they are not doing what i want them to do | 04:09 |
| tczern | what's arandr | 04:10 |
| holstein | you should be able to type whatever command "konversation" requires to start it, and see error output | 04:10 |
| holstein | tczern: arandr is a tool to do what you are asking | 04:10 |
| holstein | .g arandr linux | 04:10 |
| thelonius | holstein: http://christian.amsuess.com/tools/arandr/ | 04:10 |
| LAbot | Title: ARandR: Another XRandR GUI (at christian.amsuess.com) | 04:10 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install arandr | 04:10 |
| tczern | ok | 04:10 |
| holstein | tczern: im assuming you are using "lxde" | 04:10 |
| tczern | yes | 04:11 |
| tczern | just trying, I like the default one too | 04:11 |
| holstein | trying? | 04:12 |
| tczern | I was working with KDE so far, I kust installed lxde | 04:12 |
| holstein | sure.. install what you like | 04:12 |
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| Mr-Jonze | on lxde use lxrandr | 04:17 |
| holstein | i prefer arandr | 04:17 |
| Mr-Jonze | it is also in the menu under "preferences" shortcut named "monitor settings" | 04:17 |
| holstein | yup.. i dont find that it suits all my needs.. | 04:18 |
| holstein | i find that, maybe due to GPU drivers or hardware limitations, i dont find dual head settings in lxrandr | 04:18 |
| holstein | but, it literally wont hurt to try it | 04:18 |
| holstein | i assumed that , since lxrandr "ships" with lxde, when you install it, that, tczern had found that, in the menu, and tried it | 04:19 |
| holstein | but, i shouldnt assume that.. | 04:19 |
| Mr-Jonze | lxrandr doesnt do such fancy things - youd need command line or other gui like arandr grandr xrardr | 04:19 |
| holstein | sure.. i assumed that the query was about achieving that functionality | 04:20 |
| holstein | 23:09 < tczern> xlde not too bad, but I use two monitors with different resolutions, how to configure those?, "Konversation" didn't start | 04:20 |
| holstein | but, it was kind of a "shotgun" type of thing | 04:20 |
| holstein | i took that as "how do i set dual head in lxde?".. even though, its a kde distro ;) | 04:21 |
| Mr-Jonze | yea ok just read that - yea install arandr i think that handles multi monitors | 04:21 |
| holstein | but, since i had, many times, used arandr on lxde, i figured rather than sending poor ol' tczern somewhere else, i would try and share what works for me when i want what i assume he wanted | 04:21 |
| Mr-Jonze | yes i suggested he try lxde because it is lighter and i think that an audio workstation should be as lean as possible | 04:22 |
| holstein | sure | 04:23 |
| Mr-Jonze | he had first asked if it was good to install compiz and cairo dock | 04:23 |
| holstein | i would just install lubuntu or an ubuntu/debian base, and add lxde and whatever i want | 04:23 |
| holstein | sure.. its fine to install whatever | 04:23 |
| holstein | compiz. cario.. who cares | 04:23 |
| holstein | thats what CPU and ram are for ;) | 04:23 |
| Mr-Jonze | he has kxstudio distro that is ubuntu yes? | 04:24 |
| holstein | can be ubuntu | 04:24 |
| holstein | there are debian sources | 04:24 |
| holstein | most of the software is in *all* major repos | 04:24 |
| holstein | arch.. fedora. .. whatever | 04:24 |
| Mr-Jonze | yes but i think he said he the THE kxstudio distro which is ubuntu | 04:25 |
| holstein | yes.. i believe that user installed stock kxstudio | 04:26 |
| holstein | and has been slowly breaking it for over a week now | 04:26 |
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| tczern | in LXDE now :-) | 04:27 |
| tczern | I cannot figure this arandr thing out, different resolutions, arandr shows me a window as they are both connected to the HDMI port | 04:28 |
| holstein | tczern: you dont trust the labels.. *anywhere* | 04:29 |
| tczern | yea | 04:29 |
| holstein | tczern: you are not promised linux support from the creators of your hardware.. so the labels will likely be incorrect | 04:29 |
| tczern | k | 04:29 |
| holstein | *if* they (they = the creators of the hardware) want, they can look at *all* of linux, which is all open, and provide support for it | 04:29 |
| holstein | if they dont.. then, you can face compromise | 04:30 |
| tczern | Preferences/Monitor Settings/ Display Settings .. shows me HDMI-1 and I1, whatever I put here I have on both mintors the exact same, but one with the wrong res because it's a smaller display | 04:31 |
| holstein | sure | 04:31 |
| holstein | its because you have not configured it for dual head. you are mirroring | 04:31 |
| holstein | its not "the wrong res". its just not the way you want it to mle | 04:31 |
| holstein | to be* | 04:31 |
| tczern | haha, right | 04:32 |
| holstein | please try the tool "arandr" | 04:32 |
| tczern | I did | 04:32 |
| holstein | open it, either by finding it in the menu, or just type it into a terminal or alt-F2 | 04:32 |
| holstein | then, you will find the 2 displays overlapping.. you drag them apart, and orient the as you want, rather than being on top of each other.. hit the "apply" button | 04:32 |
| Mr-Jonze | @ tczern - did you have both monitors working separately with kde before installing lxde? | 04:33 |
| holstein | *then* you 'll find the resolution setting in the menu | 04:33 |
| tczern | terminal I did, it opened and shows me on bother screens the same window with HDMI-1 | 04:33 |
| holstein | if you dont know which monitor is which, set the settings on one, and note which one that is | 04:33 |
| tczern | yes, in KDE I got the monitor seperatly, worked fine | 04:33 |
| holstein | tczern: sure.. again, please ignore the labels | 04:33 |
| Mr-Jonze | some of them have an "identify" button for that which draws huge numbers OSD | 04:34 |
| holstein | yup.. not arandr, AFAIK | 04:34 |
| tczern | in KDE I got the option to mirror or seperate the monitors | 04:34 |
| holstein | tczern: correct | 04:34 |
| holstein | tczern: you can implement this, friend, by using arandr, and seeing where the displays are overtop of each other.. and literally clicking and dragging them in the orientation you prefer | 04:35 |
| tczern | aarggghh, I got it | 04:35 |
| tczern | lol | 04:35 |
| holstein | tczern: you are still looking for a magic button, and i assure you, there is none | 04:35 |
| tczern | stupid me | 04:35 |
| tczern | thanks! | 04:35 |
| Mr-Jonze | if all else fails do a web search for "lxde dual monitors xinerama" may help - i sure it is possible | 04:35 |
| holstein | its just minimal.. lxde is not KDE.. its not meant to have all the settings like that | 04:35 |
| Mr-Jonze | but may require manual config or the dreaded xorg.conf | 04:35 |
| Mr-Jonze | yea actually lxde can do just about everything but you need to get yer hands dirty in config files | 04:36 |
| holstein | or, just fire up a live iso, and try *everything* | 04:36 |
| holstein | i like to experiment on live iso's, since the settings are not persistent, and i cant break anything permanently | 04:36 |
| tczern | now! | 04:36 |
| tczern | dang! | 04:36 |
| tczern | thanks so much | 04:37 |
| holstein | yeah.. and i dont think i had to say it more than 3 times ;) | 04:37 |
| tczern | uhhm | 04:37 |
| tczern | what application controls the cpu speed, I had an applet for this in KDE | 04:56 |
| Mr-Jonze | there may be a panel applet for thatt | 04:59 |
| tczern | I won't need it if I could just set it to max performance, searched the web for that but what I found didn't do the trick | 05:00 |
| Mr-Jonze | but in fine nix style there is a file under /dev that you can always stuff a 1 into | 05:00 |
| Mr-Jonze | sry under /proc probalby i cant remember exactly which file | 05:01 |
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| Mr-Jonze | and theres a commanline utility for that too - i think its cpufrerq | 05:02 |
| tczern | cpufreqd, installed it, but it doesn't do anything | 05:07 |
| tczern | I can change the CPU scaling in cadence | 05:07 |
| Mr-Jonze | good deal | 05:09 |
| Mr-Jonze | i just looked on my system i have a program named cpufreq-selector | 05:10 |
| tczern | in the panel, for example, the digital clock, is it possible to move/drag its position? | 05:15 |
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| Mr-Jonze | everything on the panel can be moved and stretchd yea | 05:24 |
| Mr-Jonze | right-click an empty place on the panel and choose "panel settings" | 05:24 |
| tczern | I know that, but let's say I want some applets on the left and some on the right side, is that possible? | 05:25 |
| Mr-Jonze | yes every can be moved - on the "panel applets" tab in "panel settings" | 05:26 |
| Mr-Jonze | you will also find there a cpufreq applet | 05:29 |
| tczern | just found system tray, that's the one! | 05:29 |
| tczern | and cpufreq has settings to remember what I select in that tray | 05:29 |
| tczern | not too shabby! | 05:29 |
| Mr-Jonze | its getting there - lxde is one of the newer desktops - its just a matter of time as new features get added | 05:30 |
| tczern | it's more responsive than KDE on my system | 05:32 |
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| tczern | k, thanks for helping, | 05:56 |
| Mr-Jonze | np - rock on bud | 05:58 |
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| Xzu | lots of crash with projectM with kx12.04. Same for everyone? | 16:22 |
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| KXStudio_Ptobs | hello can someone help me with my installation of kxstudio. It won't connect to any wireless networks even though I put in the correct password | 19:33 |
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| KXStudio_Ptobs | hello can someone help me with my installation of kxstudio. It won't connect to any wireless networks even though I put in the correct password | 20:22 |
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| distrozapper | falktx, Welcome to Germany. I hope you settled down well? | 20:27 |
| * distrozapper was last in Berlin some 30 years ago, much things have changed for sure. | 20:34 | |
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| falktx | distrozapper: not yet settled, still in a temporary place | 21:09 |
| distrozapper | falktx, good friends around? | 21:11 |
| falktx | not yet | 21:12 |
| falktx | they are still settling in as well | 21:12 |
| distrozapper | falktx, I am sure people at the music arts oriented universities can help you. | 21:30 |
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| * distrozapper investigates... IMHO one member of KRAFTWERK (Ralf Hutter) holds a professor tiltle in a Berlin university. | 21:35 | |
| distrozapper | title | 21:36 |
| distrozapper | IIRC FH Berlin (Freie Hochschule Berlin) | 21:41 |
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| blik71 | hey guys, could someone help me with installing wineasio no matter what I do I can't get it to install | 23:13 |
| Mr-Jonze | thats a package in the repo isnt it ? | 23:47 |
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