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| hlblyhipy | Hi newbie here Just installed KX studio and cant seem to start cadence with my prefered usb interface,it was however working in Ubuntustudio and from the kx live cd,could anyone please help me | 13:53 |
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| hlblyhipy | need help getting my lexicon omega to work with cadence | 16:29 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, does the omega appear as USB device in cadences JACK driver configuration tab? | 16:35 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, make sure it is selected there, stop/start jack, alsa snd-aloop daemon and alsa midi and it should work. | 16:38 |
| hlblyhipy | yes it worked fine in ubuntu studio and from the live dvd of kx studio alsa gives me an error | 16:38 |
| hlblyhipy | tried that still didnt do the trick | 16:39 |
| hlblyhipy | I have it set for 4 inputs but even when i set it at zero will not start | 16:40 |
| hlblyhipy | tried to reset cadence with a command line but that didnt work either. | 16:42 |
| hlblyhipy | In cadence it shows two instances of the omega tried them both still nothing | 16:43 |
| hlblyhipy | when confuses me is it worked on the live dvd | 16:43 |
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| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, hm I would try setting input device/output device to "none" and input/output channels to "0" and try from there as a starting point, just to see cadence can handle the omega in simple stereo | 16:48 |
| hlblyhipy | ok hold on | 16:48 |
| hlblyhipy | unfortunatley nothing happened.Ive done the updates and upgrades so im really lost | 16:50 |
| hlblyhipy | in my log it say alsa cant set hw parameters for capture | 16:52 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, could you paste your alsa/jack error logs on http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Paste/ ? Maybe someone else could see what is wrong too | 16:52 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio Paste (at kxstudio.sourceforge.net) | 16:52 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, also the output of aplay -l (in terminal) could be of help | 16:54 |
| hlblyhipy | http://pastebin.com/7FmavtFe | 16:56 |
| hlblyhipy | and here is my log | 16:59 |
| hlblyhipy | http://pastebin.com/h4Y7cusf | 16:59 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, thanks | 17:00 |
| hlblyhipy | hey thank you for being patient,i have very little knowledge in this area | 17:01 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, I am not an expert, but maybe the trick might be easy. BTW, if you post a question, please be patient too and wait for some 15min at least ;) | 17:03 |
| hlblyhipy | ok thank you very much | 17:04 |
| hlblyhipy | im thinking its something very simple im just too new lol | 17:04 |
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| hlblyhipy | normally i do pipes burst in my house so ive been in and out lol | 17:05 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, my problem is, I dont have that interface, so I would have to guess | 17:08 |
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| hlblyhipy | im sure its some config issue im unaware of,as i said the interface worked fine b4 | 17:10 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, atm your device setting in cadence seems to be "hw:Omega,0". Is this correct? | 17:11 |
| hlblyhipy | ya there is also one listed as hw 1 but i believe that is the midi portion of the omega | 17:12 |
| hlblyhipy | and ive tried both no luck | 17:13 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, according to aplay -l, you could try entering "hw:2" or "hw:2,0" there manually. | 17:14 |
| hlblyhipy | not sure how to do that | 17:16 |
| hlblyhipy | switching the number may help? | 17:17 |
| distrozapper | IIRC there were cases where this helped | 17:17 |
| hlblyhipy | whats iirc | 17:18 |
| distrozapper | if I remember correctly | 17:18 |
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| hlblyhipy | wow im lookin pretty stupid lol | 17:22 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, no I had learned these acronyms the same way ;) | 17:23 |
| distrozapper | by asking | 17:23 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, my second idea would be to play with the duplex parameter. But then I admit I am running out of ideas atm (at the meantime) | 17:24 |
| hlblyhipy | ok ill try that thats definitely something i haven tried yet | 17:26 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, does cadence report you being in the group "audio"? | 17:27 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Doh. :) | 17:28 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Guess who didn't set the - | 17:28 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: -P setting in his jack cli. | 17:29 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: 1 gazzilion xruns later..... | 17:29 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: :) | 17:29 |
| hlblyhipy | yes it does there is a check mark next to it,not sure if i mentioned this but my internal sound card works fine | 17:30 |
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| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, so the devil sits somewhere in the settings | 17:31 |
| hlblyhipy | ya like i said im new to all of this and im sure its something east im missing and again thanx for the patience | 17:32 |
| hlblyhipy | just learned how to cpoy and move files with cl | 17:32 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, you are welcome, I hope you find someone more skilled with a lexicon omega USB and cadence. | 17:33 |
| hlblyhipy | just noticed that cadence has created a midi port for my omega | 17:34 |
| hlblyhipy | under the a2j midi bridge | 17:35 |
| hlblyhipy | what i dont undertsand is why it worked from the live cd but wont once its installed | 17:39 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, You installed kxstudio from a live cd? What iso version was it? | 17:46 |
| hlblyhipy | cant remeber what command for that but i think its 14.04.1 | 17:47 |
| distrozapper | OK thanks | 17:47 |
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| hlblyhipy | didnt notice any problems during onstall either | 17:58 |
| hlblyhipy | would reinsalling the os be to extreme of a solution | 18:03 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, strange thing. If you got the time, you could try booting the live dvd again, see if the omega works flawless in live-dvd mode and if so, just note the cadence settings to transfer them into your HDD installation. | 18:03 |
| hlblyhipy | ok ill try that worth a shot for me shame cause im really liking this distro | 18:04 |
| hlblyhipy | ill be back if it doesnt work,thanx for the help | 18:06 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, good luck! | 18:06 |
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| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, this seems fixable | 18:07 |
| falktx | no, the settings are not transferable | 18:11 |
| falktx | anything you do in the live-dvd is not copied to the hdd-install | 18:11 |
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| distrozapper | falktx, thats right. But maybe the live-dvd cadence settings contain a hint why his alsa refuses to configure the capture channel. | 18:21 |
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| distrozapper | falktx, If you want to take a look, hlblyhipy left a few logs: http://pastebin.com/h4Y7cusf http://pastebin.com/7FmavtFe | 18:24 |
| falktx | for that I have no idea | 18:24 |
| falktx | i'll wait until he returns | 18:24 |
| distrozapper | OK thanks | 18:24 |
| falktx | distrozapper: ping me if the asks for help again and I don't notice | 18:24 |
| distrozapper | falktx, OK will do :) | 18:24 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: that would do it :) | 18:29 |
| JackWinter | i just discovered that i can't run bonnie++ on the same disk that i have audio tracks on. neither with ardour nor with reaper | 18:29 |
| JackWinter | going to spain tomorrow so will see if i can figure out a way to run bonnie++ without getting xruns | 18:30 |
| JackWinter | 2 weeks with no work :) | 18:30 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: hehe, i hope you enjoy yourself. :) | 18:34 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: you might want to pop over the border and visit falk. Give him a hand. :) | 18:35 |
| JackWinter | i'll be quite far away from portugal, going to aragon (mountains this time) | 18:36 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: right. | 18:36 |
| falktx | aragon? | 18:37 |
| falktx | sounds like a spanish name | 18:38 |
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| JackWinter | it's between la rioja, catalunia and the basque countries and france | 18:40 |
| JackWinter | the area around zaragoza | 18:41 |
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| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, Welcome back | 18:46 |
| hlblyhipy | ok my interface works fine from the live disk,still doesnt work on my system,wrote down the settings and applied same but still no good | 18:47 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Are you sure it's not Aragorn, and you're actually going on a Lord of the Rings field trip? :) | 18:48 |
| hlblyhipy | was able to record four tracks at once in ardour | 18:48 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, falktx asked me to forward your issue to him. He is the maintainer of the kxstudio suite and for sure has more experience than me. Please ask him, he will be glad to help. | 18:50 |
| hlblyhipy | oh ok thanx alot | 18:51 |
| distrozapper | falktx, ping | 18:51 |
| hlblyhipy | whats ping | 18:51 |
| hlblyhipy | told i was new lol | 18:52 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, In IRC a "ping" means (just like in a hotel at the reception counter): Are you there? | 18:53 |
| hlblyhipy | oh ok same as open dialog | 18:55 |
| distrozapper | Not quite, just "sounding a bell" | 18:56 |
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| falktx | hlblyhipy: so jack can't start? is that it? | 18:58 |
| hlblyhipy | with my on board sound card it works fine but not with my lexicon it does when i use the live dvd but not in my system | 18:59 |
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| Xzu | hlblyhipy, your system is last version (14.04)? | 19:05 |
| hlblyhipy | yes | 19:05 |
| hlblyhipy | used the kx iso | 19:05 |
| hlblyhipy | 14.04.1 | 19:06 |
| falktx | hlblyhipy: you should check the logs to see what they say | 19:08 |
| falktx | also make sure your user is in the audio and video group | 19:08 |
| falktx | ie, cadence-logs | 19:08 |
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| hlblyhipy | http://pastebin.com/CVX3T5jg | 19:11 |
| hlblyhipy | there are my logs,and yes i am in both video and audio groups | 19:11 |
| falktx | hlblyhipy: try disabling duplex, or setting the input and output cards to omega0 | 19:13 |
| falktx | I bet this is something about that duplex setting | 19:14 |
| hlblyhipy | i unchecked duplex but still wont start,im not sure why it works from the live dvd but not my system | 19:17 |
| Xzu | hlblyhipy, what model of lexicon? | 19:18 |
| hlblyhipy | the omega 8x4x2 | 19:19 |
| hlblyhipy | it walys work with ubuntu studio | 19:19 |
| hlblyhipy | sworry always bad typing | 19:19 |
| falktx | have you tried with jack1 instead of jack2? | 19:20 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: if i find some orcs i'll bring you a tooth as a souvenir :) | 19:20 |
| hlblyhipy | no dont know how | 19:20 |
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| hlblyhipy | just started learning the command line | 19:21 |
| hlblyhipy | what does cadence use | 19:21 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: And a couple of pretty hobbit women as well. I need someone to clean the house. :) | 19:22 |
| falktx | the kxstudio isos use jack2 by default | 19:22 |
| falktx | hlblyhipy: run this on a terminal: | 19:22 |
| falktx | sudo apt-get install jackd1 | 19:22 |
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| falktx | hlblyhipy: then logout and login again. to make sure there are no possible conflicts | 19:23 |
| hlblyhipy | says jackd is already newest version that means i already have it correct | 19:23 |
| hlblyhipy | log out or restart | 19:24 |
| falktx | hm, so the install command didn't change anything? | 19:24 |
| falktx | hlblyhipy: you used the old 14.04 iso I guess, not the new testing ones right? | 19:25 |
| hlblyhipy | i got the iso from the kx website | 19:25 |
| hlblyhipy | 14.04.1 | 19:25 |
| falktx | ok, so that comes with jack1 by default | 19:25 |
| falktx | so try installing jack2 | 19:26 |
| falktx | sudo apt-get install jackd2 | 19:26 |
| hlblyhipy | removed jack 1 and installed jack2 | 19:28 |
| hlblyhipy | so should i logout or restrat | 19:28 |
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| falktx | hlblyhipy: you need to reconfigure jack now | 19:37 |
| falktx | jack1 settings are different from jack2 | 19:37 |
| hlblyhipy | installing jackd2 did something weird in my config window duplex mode is unchecked monitor is highlighted and input ports 2 outports2 but nothing for interface | 19:38 |
| hlblyhipy | never mind i was in the dummy tab sorry | 19:39 |
| hlblyhipy | in aply -l everything is the same that ok | 19:43 |
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| hlblyhipy | ok i configured cadence again still wont start | 19:50 |
| falktx | pastebin the logs again please | 19:51 |
| falktx | (the new ones) | 19:51 |
| hlblyhipy | ok | 19:52 |
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| hlblyhipy | http://pastebin.com/v2VxpgSJ | 19:55 |
| hlblyhipy | new logs | 19:56 |
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| falktx | hlblyhipy: from what I see in the logs jack *is* starting | 19:59 |
| hlblyhipy | well when i force restart it shows an x for server status but im going to try something | 20:01 |
| hlblyhipy | plus catia doesnt show anything | 20:02 |
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| distrozapper | falktx, hlblyhipy : from what I see jack starts on the onboard soundcard, not the USB omega | 20:05 |
| hlblyhipy | ya exactly | 20:05 |
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| falktx | ok, then I need the proper logs | 20:07 |
| hlblyhipy | the onboard souncard always worked and like i siad the omega works off the live dvd | 20:09 |
| hlblyhipy | what logs do you need | 20:10 |
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| falktx | when you start jack using the omega | 20:10 |
| hlblyhipy | there are two instances of omega in the interface drop down list ive tried both one is hw0 the other hw1 | 20:13 |
| hlblyhipy | http://pastebin.com/0yFHMQAA this is for the omega hw0 | 20:15 |
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| hlblyhipy | http://pastebin.com/AyQ4gWnX and here is the one when i try with 4 inputs | 20:16 |
| hlblyhipy | in qjckctl the omega works with hw0 and 4 inputs | 20:17 |
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| hlblyhipy | the omega listed as hw1 just started ill send that log | 20:22 |
| hlblyhipy | http://pastebin.com/xkgAPC7x | 20:22 |
| falktx | maybe jackdbus has some bug | 20:22 |
| falktx | try with jackd | 20:22 |
| falktx | jackd -d alsa -d hw:Omega,0 | 20:22 |
| hlblyhipy | only problem is i dont have 4 inputs | 20:23 |
| hlblyhipy | this is the output of jackd http://pastebin.com/HD3Dm61A | 20:26 |
| falktx | hm, is pulseaudio running? | 20:27 |
| hlblyhipy | sorry the omega didnt start | 20:27 |
| falktx | something is blocking the soundcard | 20:27 |
| hlblyhipy | it says pulse not started | 20:27 |
| hlblyhipy | so no | 20:28 |
| hlblyhipy | i guess i could try a different usb port would that help | 20:28 |
| falktx | you shouldn't have pulse installed by default on kxstudio | 20:29 |
| falktx | why do you need it? | 20:29 |
| falktx | the iso doesn't have it afaik | 20:29 |
| falktx | please remove it | 20:29 |
| falktx | sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio* | 20:29 |
| hlblyhipy | i didnt install it | 20:32 |
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| hlblyhipy | hey that worked jack started with all 4 inputs. | 20:36 |
| hlblyhipy | im using the ubuntustudio desktop is that how pules got loaded? | 20:38 |
| falktx | pulseaudio blocks the soundcard | 20:39 |
| falktx | which is why jack can't start for many users | 20:39 |
| hlblyhipy | ah never liked pulse audio | 20:40 |
| hlblyhipy | so i wont beable to use the US desktop | 20:41 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Figured out that j2amidibridge doesn't like being open more than once. (only one instance) | 20:43 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: At least not when plowing a lot of midi data into wine | 20:43 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: So i have my spitfire audio strings, and KH solo strings in a standalone instance, which chews about 15GB of ram, and the rest of the orchestra in as vsts. | 20:44 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: 2 prefixes. | 20:45 |
| hlblyhipy | falktx,thank you so much for the help,my band mates were ready to kill me | 20:45 |
| * distrozapper is puzzled | 20:48 | |
| hlblyhipy | thank you distrozapper my problem was pulse audio.I have the ubuntustudio desktop which has pulse audio | 20:49 |
| hlblyhipy | so got rid of pulse started right up | 20:49 |
| distrozapper | Is ubuntustudio desktop included in a kxstudio iso install? | 20:49 |
| hlblyhipy | no i got it from synaptic dont like kde iseem to really like xfce | 20:50 |
| hlblyhipy | but being a newbie it didnt dawn on me that i would drag pulse into it | 20:51 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, no prob, I am glad you can continue now | 20:52 |
| alex-EU | ll | 20:52 |
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| hlblyhipy | now if i restart into US desktop pulse wont reload will it | 20:53 |
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| hlblyhipy | when you purge are u uninstalling something | 20:53 |
| distrozapper | purge = delete completely without rests | 20:55 |
| falktx | yep | 20:56 |
| hlblyhipy | oh ok so i can keep using the desktop | 20:56 |
| falktx | if you use cadence you don't need pulse | 20:56 |
| hlblyhipy | ha i dont want pulse lol | 20:57 |
| falktx | just set the alsa-audio bridge to "alsa -> loop -> jack" and start it | 20:57 |
| alex-EU | hlblyhipy: who does..... | 20:57 |
| hlblyhipy | ya thats done its running now like it used to | 20:57 |
| falktx | all audio will be going through jack with that on, including media players, youtube, etc | 20:57 |
| hlblyhipy | so the ubuntu studio desktop will be ok to use | 20:57 |
| hlblyhipy | hey where can i give money to kxstudio with my next check i want to donate | 21:00 |
| falktx | http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Donations | 21:00 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Donations (at kxstudio.sourceforge.net) | 21:00 |
| falktx | and you're welcome :) | 21:00 |
| * falktx wonders if thelonius is fixed | 21:00 | |
| falktx | .g google test | 21:00 |
| thelonius | falktx: http://code.google.com/p/googletest/ | 21:00 |
| LAbot | Title: googletest - Google C++ Testing Framework - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com) | 21:00 |
| falktx | haha! | 21:01 |
| falktx | guitarman: thanks! | 21:01 |
| hlblyhipy | i cant thank you all enough this distro looks great.I used to work in recording studios but that was all analog.this stuff has a steep learning curve since i know very little of computers | 21:01 |
| hlblyhipy | but cant wait to jump in | 21:02 |
| distrozapper | hlblyhipy, you are welcome | 21:06 |
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| hlblyhipy | well gotta go play im sure ill see you guys again after a couple days ill let you know how things are goin | 21:11 |
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| rgareus | falktx: I just added http://linuxaudio.org/irc/kxstudio/ I suggest to add add 'logged at..' to the topic. | 21:21 |
| LAbot | Title: #kxstudio IRC logs | Linuxaudio.org (at linuxaudio.org) | 21:21 |
| rgareus | falktx: on http://linuxaudio.org/irc/ I used the tagline from kxstudio.sf.net "collection of applications and plugins for professional audio production" | 21:23 |
| LAbot | Title: IRC | Linuxaudio.org (at linuxaudio.org) | 21:23 |
| rgareus | falktx: if you have a better/shorter description, just ping me | 21:23 |
| rgareus | an url-shortener/redirect to http://linuxaudio.org/irc/kxstudio/2014/latest.log.html might also come in handy (that 'latest' page is bookmarkable) | 21:25 |
| LAbot | Title: Friday, 2014-12-19 (at linuxaudio.org) | 21:25 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: This is working ok now. 18GB altogether in the standalone K, and about 9GB so far in reaper with 12 K vsts. There just might be light at the end of the tunnel.... | 21:25 |
| rgareus | alex-EU: Did I get this correctly? You have 18000 VST plugins installed on your system?!? | 21:26 |
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| falktx | rgareus: no, 12 kontakt vsts | 21:27 |
| falktx | rgareus: alex-EU is pushing the limits on his system and linux audio (somewhat) | 21:27 |
| falktx | hopefully 64GB RAM will be enough | 21:27 |
| rgareus | well Linux itself supports 4096 CPU cores and you can have a max of 128TB RAM per process.. Way to go :) | 21:31 |
| alex-EU | falktx: we'll see. | 21:31 |
| alex-EU | falktx: i may need another box...........:) | 21:31 |
| alex-EU | falktx: and some fibre channel cards... | 21:32 |
| alex-EU | :) | 21:33 |
| alex-EU | rgareus: finding a mobo to take 256GB of ram might be a challenge. | 21:33 |
| falktx | maybe a server rack? | 21:34 |
| alex-EU | rgareus: I might need a CRAY.... | 21:34 |
| alex-EU | falktx: i've been thing that for a long time | 21:34 |
| alex-EU | falktx: thinking | 21:34 |
| falktx | I think about that sometimes too | 21:35 |
| alex-EU | falktx: 4 servers, each in raid, with fibre channel cards, into a daw box. | 21:35 |
| falktx | I'd need a new house first though | 21:35 |
| rgareus | alex-EU: well, yeah a suprcomputer | 21:35 |
| falktx | a server rack doesn't even fit in my room :P | 21:35 |
| alex-EU | falktx: only problem is GUIs. But i guess i could install K on each initially with a screen, and just run them headless afterwards. I don't know if K would like that though. | 21:36 |
| alex-EU | falktx: Some sxcripting invloved i think. | 21:36 |
| alex-EU | falktx: or have 5 42inch monitors.... | 21:38 |
| alex-EU | :) | 21:39 |
| alex-EU | aah shit, jackass32 crashed. Spoke too soon | 21:43 |
| distrozapper | falktx, I am unsure: Is mod-host/client a collaboration between you and HarryHaaren? | 22:01 |
| distrozapper | where should I report issues? | 22:03 |
| falktx | distrozapper: no. it's part of the portalmod software | 22:03 |
| falktx | distrozapper: soon, not yet | 22:03 |
| falktx | .g portalmod | 22:03 |
| thelonius | falktx: http://portalmod.com/ | 22:03 |
| LAbot | Title: Step onto the future | Portal MOD (at portalmod.com) | 22:03 |
| distrozapper | falktx, thanks | 22:03 |
| falktx | distrozapper: there is a collaboration between portalmod and kxstudio | 22:03 |
| falktx | I'll be doing their ISOs and the desktop application | 22:04 |
| distrozapper | ah ok | 22:04 |
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