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On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Carlos sanchiavedraz
wrote:

> 2014-06-12 23:00 GMT+02:00 Robin Gareus :

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Thanks for bumping this thread Carlos! The keynote by J=C3=B6rg made me thi=
nk
quite a lot. It's a risky thing to open conferences by questioning the
conference itself. But it was well put and constructive.
I'm a still pretty much a n00b here, although i have lurked the web-archive
of LAU since 2009. But i think i would like to participate in the 2015
session after watching some videos.

I would like to feed back my impressions after watching J=C3=B6rg speak:
I work quite hard on a peer-2-peer AFK level to promote GNU/linux and
opensource, but also the philosophy arround and within it. Mainly by making
my music with it, and teaching people to use blender, gimp and inkscape. I
have noticed that it is better to let the people come to me, then to put my
reality in their face. For example when they complain about having to buy
expensive upgrades for their adobe products, i show them my results and
only then i speak about my tools.

But last year i tried something on a higher and more political level. I
first try finding out who in what department is responsible for buying
software in the swedish government (where i am now) Once i found who to
talk with, i ask this simple question:

"What is the total anual cost of all apple and windows products bought by
the state?"

At first i got pingponged all over the place. But after a few month i got
an answer: Only microsoft cost aprox 500 Million SEK (aprox. 50 million
euros). But i could tell by the email which contained may answer and the
past log of many questions and comments that the employess had asked each
other, that i layed a little seed in their minds.

Unfortunately, i don't posses the human ressources or experience to push it
further than that simple question. But unless you already have asked this
question to your country's governement, i suggest you do it. The more
people asking, the better probably.

Now for a note about the ecnomical questions raised by J=C3=B6rg arround LA=
C:
Perhaps some of you guys are familiar with the frenchspeaking meetings
called RMLL ( http://rmll.info ) I worked with them on the 2012 edition.
And whilst it was held in switzerland where funding for culture and
knowledge is easier to arrange than most place, i would like to suggest you
ask them how they finance their meetings. Because i think pretty much all
active participants (conferenciers, workshopers etc) got their ticket and a
hot meal per day, with free to very cheap accomodation. They can be found
on IRC freenode. But if anyone would like a direct link to the
administration, please get in touch with me and i will arrange it as far as
i can.

I hope i'm not repeating anything that has been said 20'000 times before
with this email. I would however like to end it with this little anecdote:
i like to talk to random people. Hence, when ever i'm in a bar, i tigh alot
of temporary to permanent connections. Lately, a few of them have advized
me on their own behalf to try out linux "because its really easy now, and
opensource/transparency is important if society has to become
computerized". I think this is perhaps an insignifcant detail of luck and
circumstances, but also a great sign! Before 2012, i don't think it ever
happened to me. :)

Happy Audio Creation!

--=20
Set Hallstr=C3=B6m
AKA
reSet Sakrecoer
http://sakrecoer.com

On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Carlos sanchiavedraz
wrote:

> 2014-06-12 23:00 GMT+02:00 Robin Gareus :

d
g
he

--=20
Set Hallstr=C3=B6m
AKA
reSet Sakrecoer
http://sakrecoer.com

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hu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Carlos sanchiavedraz <csanchezgs@gmail.com=
> wrote:
2014-06-12 23:00 GMT+02:00 Robin Gareus <=
robin@gareus.org>:

loaded
:
ttp://lac.linuxaudio.org/2014/program
I've just watched the Conference Welcome and the Keynote. M=
y kudos to
the organization and everyone involved, it's very nice to be able to
watch conferences for us that couldn't afford to get there and enjoy
them live.Thanks for bumping thi=
s thread Carlos! The keynote by J=C3=B6rg made me think quite a lot. It&#39=
;s a risky thing to open conferences by questioning the conference itself. =
But it was well put and constructive.
I'm a still pretty much a n00b here, although i have lurked the we=
b-archive of LAU since 2009. But i think i would like to participate in the=
2015 session after watching some videos.=C2=A0I =
would like to feed back my impressions after watching J=C3=B6rg speak:
I work quite hard on a peer-2-peer AFK level to promote GNU/linux and =
opensource, but also the philosophy arround and within it. Mainly by making=
my music with it, and teaching people to use blender, gimp and inkscape. I=
have noticed that it is better to let the people come to me, then to put m=
y reality in their face. For example when they complain about having to buy=
expensive upgrades for their adobe products, i show them my results and on=
ly then i speak about my tools.
But last year i tried something on a higher and more po=
litical level. I first try finding out who in what department is responsibl=
e for buying software in the swedish government (where i am now) Once i fou=
nd who to talk with, i ask this simple question:
"What is the total anual cost of all apple and win=
dows products bought by the state?"At first =
i got pingponged all over the place. But after a few month i got an answer:=
Only microsoft cost aprox 500 Million SEK (aprox. 50 million euros). But i=
could tell by the email which contained may answer and the past log of man=
y questions and comments that the employess had asked each other, that i la=
yed a little seed in their minds.
Unfortunately, i don't posses the human ressources =
or experience to push it further than that simple question. But unless you =
already have asked this question to your country's governement, i sugge=
st you do it. The more people asking, the better probably.
Now for a note about the ecnomical questions raised by =
J=C3=B6rg arround LAC:Perhaps some of you guys are familiar with=
the frenchspeaking meetings called RMLL ( htt=
p://rmll.info
) I worked with them on the 2012 edition. And whilst it w=
as held in switzerland where funding for culture and knowledge is easier to=
arrange than most place, i would like to suggest you ask them how they fin=
ance their meetings. Because i think pretty much all active participants (c=
onferenciers, workshopers etc) got their ticket and a hot meal per day, wit=
h free to very cheap accomodation. They can be found on IRC freenode. But i=
f anyone would like a direct link to the administration, please get in touc=
h with me and i will arrange it as far as i can.
I hope i'm not repeating anything that has been sai=
d 20'000 times before with this email. I would however like to end it w=
ith this little anecdote: i like to talk to random people. Hence, when ever=
i'm in a bar, i tigh alot of temporary to permanent connections. Latel=
y, a few of them have advized me on their own behalf to try out linux &quot=
;because its really easy now, and opensource/transparency is important if s=
ociety has to become computerized". I think this is perhaps an insigni=
fcant detail of luck and circumstances, but also a great sign! Before 2012,=
i don't think it ever happened to me. :)
Happy Audio Creation!-- Set Ha=
llstr=C3=B6mAKAreSet Sakrecoerhttp://sakrecoer.com
O=
n Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Carlos sanchiavedraz <=
csanchezgs@gmail.=
com
> wrote:
2014-06-12 23:00 GMT+02:00 Robin Gareus <=
robin@gareus.org>:
loaded
:
ttp://lac.linuxaudio.org/2014/program
o

> (sorry IE and Safari users). But since it has been quite a while

,
ng
ser@lists.linuxaudio.org

I've just watched the Conference Welcome and the Keynote. M=
y kudos to
the organization and everyone involved, it's very nice to be able to
watch conferences for us that couldn't afford to get there and enjoy
them live.

@J=C3=B6rn, you've spotted many questions on your presentation (here in=
the
list previuos to this LAC as well) that I've wonder as well over the
years. Great intro for a LAC which encourages a healthy self-criticism
to get better.

Not long ago I was at a conference related to Multimedia/3D/Animation
FLOSS (not only under Linux) hanging out with speakers and presenters
having some coffee. At a certain moment they were talking about how
good, ethic, philosophical and bla bla FLOSS was (sarcasm wink), and I
modestly dare to say something in the lines of: Yes... of course it is
but... we do already know and we're convinced; so maybe what we should<=
br>
also be doing (in addition to enjoy some coffee/beer making believe to
believers) is to tell others out there and try to put this stuff close
to them.
You mentioned one important point that's to contact and attract
enterprise and companies. This surely could help to create some
momentum and get public knowledge. Related to this point, given that
for the moment that high end aspect escapes me (but it's on my radar),<=
br>
I'm trying to effectively do something with several in progress
projects aimed mainly to musicians and artist not very tech-savvy and
not aware of other other ways of thinking that care and preserve their
freedom and autonomy (and their wallets in some way), and are
completely useful and functional in addition (maybe just a little less
eye-candy sometimes).

P.S: Just wanted to mention that I had to change to 360p because 720p
stream cuts off. Just FWIW. Surely it's a temporary peak.

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[LAU] LAC'14 video archive, Robin Gareus, (Thu Jun 12, 9:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] LAC'14 video archive, Carlos sanchiavedraz, (Thu Jun 26, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] LAC'14 video archive, Set Hallström, (Fri Jun 27, 2:30 pm)