Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass

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Date: Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 10:16 pm

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:41:00AM +0100, Chris Cannam wrote:

> One warning, the method described in it is patented -- I had to do a

Indeed... I'd be surprised if the patent is actually enforced...
There's also a collection of related patents by Fraunhofer..

> > For code, maybe have a look at Rubberband which may contain

It sure can. Meanwhile, since you tickled me, I did have a look.
I've seen worse :-)

> You gave a low-level example of the problem earlier (with neighbouring

There's a more fundamental problem behind this.

Suppose you have a sine wave at some frequency F, modulated (i.e.
multiplied) by say a 8 Hz sine wave. Assume we want to transpose
an octave up. Now is this signal

a) just a single frequency (F) with some amplitude modulation on it,
or
b) two signals, at F-8 and F+8 Hz.

Mathematically, and in the analysis spectrum, these are just the
same thing. It's a matter of interpretation. In case (a) you'd want
a sine at 2*F with the same 8 Hz modulation on it. In case (b) the
wanted output is two signals at 2*(F-8) and 2*(F+8) Hz. You have
the choice of interpreting the 'detail' in either the time or
frequency domains.

For high F, our hearing would probably favour (a). But at low
frequencies things could be different. 64 Hz and 80 Hz would
make a nice major third...

Ciao,

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[LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, rosea grammostola, (Sun Jun 1, 5:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, hermann meyer, (Sun Jun 1, 5:37 pm)
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Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, rosea grammostola, (Mon Jun 2, 2:04 pm)
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Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, rosea grammostola, (Fri Jun 6, 6:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, hermann meyer, (Sat Jun 7, 8:18 am)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Fons Adriaensen, (Sat Jun 7, 4:08 pm)
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Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, hermann meyer, (Sat Jun 7, 5:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, hermann meyer, (Sun Jun 8, 4:39 am)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jun 8, 9:49 am)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, hermann meyer, (Sun Jun 8, 10:36 am)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Jun 8, 11:34 am)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, rosea grammostola, (Tue Jun 10, 3:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, hermann meyer, (Wed Jun 11, 5:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Fons Adriaensen, (Thu Jun 12, 8:42 am)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Chris Cannam, (Thu Jun 12, 9:41 am)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Fons Adriaensen, (Thu Jun 12, 10:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, hermann meyer, (Fri Jun 13, 7:05 am)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Gianfranco Ceccolini, (Tue Jun 10, 3:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, rosea grammostola, (Tue Jun 10, 4:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Gianfranco Ceccolini, (Wed Jun 11, 2:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, rosea grammostola, (Wed Jun 11, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, Gianfranco Ceccolini, (Fri Jun 13, 12:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass, rob, (Tue Jun 3, 9:13 pm)