Re: [LAU] WX5 MIDI mapping

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Date: Friday, September 6, 2013 - 2:31 am

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Thank you Nick.
Aha, so, this is the "melodica" - I like this instrument. This video always
makes me goosebumps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqcmhkfJRE - this
"melodica" is in the end, filling the music greatly.
Now I listen to these ChiLites ("Have you seen her"), I see what you mean,
it sounds very interesting.

Well, I got wx5 + yamaha vl70-m. I hope I will be able to use it in
practice. I first wanted to be just my practicing instrument - I live in ..
let's say "quiet place" in Hong Kong, just for a short while. But I made a
system to play it also in street, however something is still missing. I was
trying playing with looper and usb pedal, but it simply didn't fill me - I
am probably not that kind of musician and will always need some friends
around to play with.

Looking forward to get home soon and show up with some "enhanced sound".
Thank you, cheers!

Milan

2013/9/3 Nick Copeland

> > thank you. I just tried Muse - mapped some soundfont there and recorded

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Thank you Nick.Aha, so,=
this is the "melodica" - I like this instrument. This video alwa=
ys makes me goosebumps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0IqcmhkfJRE - this "melod=
ica" is in the end, filling the music greatly.
Now I listen to these ChiLites ("Have you seen her"), I see=
what you mean, it sounds very interesting.Well, I got wx5 + =
yamaha vl70-m. I hope I will be able to use it in practice. I first wanted =
to be just my practicing instrument - I live in .. let's say "quie=
t place" in Hong Kong, just for a short while. But I made a system to =
play it also in street, however something is still missing. I was trying pl=
aying with looper and usb pedal, but it simply didn't fill me - I am pr=
obably not that kind of musician and will always need some friends around t=
o play with.
Looking forward to get home soon and show up with some "enha=
nced sound".Thank you, cheers!Milan2013/9/3 =
Nick Copeland <nickycopeland@hotmail.com>

> tha=
nk you. I just tried Muse - mapped some soundfont there and recorded some m=
elody and....=A0> I got my first notation :)> Th=
ank you.

"Control change", another "Control=A0=
use of these - or I have=A0
nto it. Thanks to you guys, cheers!Are=
you sure you were playing the Sax correctly? If you breath too hard into a=
Sax it will also=A0
jump=A0octaves and yours mi=
ght have been a bit sensitive in how it wanted to render that to MIDI.All th=
at Control Change stuff is streaming 'emphasis', most MIDI controll=
ers do
this including guitar controllers for pitch bend and polyp=
ressure keyboards forpressure events. If the MIDI Sa=
x only mapped the fingering events then you=A0might =
as well be playing a Hohner Melodica MIDI (I am going to get flamed=A0
for this comparison so let me I apologise in advance, the =
melodica is pretty cool,=A0bless the ChiLites and New Order but it isn't a MIDI Sax....). Th=
e reed in your sax=A0
probably registers air pressure and sends those as control=
events to let your=A0music be more expressive and t=
here can be _lots_ of those events.
If you record in some app and then drive a synth that maps those control ev=
ents=A0to pitch bend but don't do it too subtly =
then you might find the results to be=A0unexpected. =
It shouldn't have affected how the music was scored since the note=A0
selection will have been done with literal NOTE_ON/OFF eve=
nts from fingering=A0but it might well affect how it=
was played back since you finger a note, mouth=A0it=
, then the pressure events make the frequency go wild by jumping octaves th=
e=A0
way a Sax does anyway if you breath too hard. If you get i=
ssues again then=A0check out the synth you are drivi=
ng and try and find out what it does with the=A0cont=
roller ID in the message. Go a bit further and you will be able to do=A0
things like map the controller ID to the synth filter or c=
utoff and have a bit=A0of fun with how you mouth you=
r notes. Which is pretty comparable to what the=A0Ch=
iLites did with the Melodica - they sang into its mouthpiece and the result=
was=A0
something akin to a mechanical=A0vocorder (and hopefully that little bit of respect will=A0save=A0me from=A0being c=
alled=A0a melodicist).
Regards, nick.2013/9/2 P=
aul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>

use aseqdump to create a trace of the incoming MIDI stream. post i=
t here.
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Milan Lazecky <espi=
ritocz@gmail.com
> wrote:
Hi,I am sor=
ry for a beginner question, but your advice would be helpful..

I have an electronic saxophone, Yamaha WX5.I use with MIDI-=

time I try to record midi footage, using either rosegarden or ardour3, the =
midi record is:

- in strange tones (the melody is there, but notes are transposed for=
+32 or -32) (note that using Qsynth, or connecting with virtual keyboard, =
the notes are ok...)- when I try to transpose the recorded melody=
to normal scale, it doesn't play anything (yes, I map some midi instru=
ment there, but it seems like if there is some strange volume=3D0 was set, =
or I don't know - but I haven't found a way to set it to other valu=
es)

I know it is very messy question. But maybe you know what is wron=
g in my case.. maybe to try another software, or I miss some settings there=
?Thank you very much.
Milan
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[LAU] WX5 MIDI mapping, Milan Lazecky, (Mon Sep 2, 2:57 am)
Re: [LAU] WX5 MIDI mapping, Paul Davis, (Mon Sep 2, 1:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] WX5 MIDI mapping, Milan Lazecky, (Mon Sep 2, 3:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] WX5 MIDI mapping, Nick Copeland, (Mon Sep 2, 4:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] WX5 MIDI mapping, Milan Lazecky, (Fri Sep 6, 2:31 am)
Re: [LAU] WX5 MIDI mapping, Tim E. Real, (Mon Sep 2, 8:24 am)