Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux

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To: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@...>
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Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 - 3:59 am

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 21:38 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:

For all the appreciated criticisms of M/S EQ, I'm really just starting
to learn about mastering, so I'm trying lots of things. Up until
lately, my mixes have been simple enough that it hasn't been that
difficult to get them to translate across different speaker systems, but
lately, I have been creating some very complicated mixes that are
offering me an opportunity to expand my mastering knowledge. So I'm
experimenting...and learning a lot of things that are new to me.

One of the things I've been disovering is that actually, the EQ that
sounds right to me doesn't seem to be the problem. I've found that
there are commercial mixes out there that are both colder than mine, and
some from the 70's that are warmer than mine, and they all translate
somehow. So EQ curve is probably not the problem either way. It seems
more related to compression and limiting -- my newer mixes have lots of
transients all over the place, which sound great on speakers that render
them well.

But some stereos seem to have woofers/subwoofers that only get engaged
when there's a fair amount of power, which means that if you don't turn
the volume up, it creates the impression that the EQ is mostly high mids
and treble. If you turn up the volume, the "problem" disappears as the
woofers begin to engage. Commercially recorded music doesn't do this on
the same stereo. On other speaker systems, my mix never manifests a
problem at any volume setting. This all seems to be about dynamics.

I am already using some compression and limiting, but obviously I
haven't nailed it yet. I'm wondering if the Calf multiband limiter
and/or multiband compressor may be useful here. Obviously, I don't want
to squash the life out of my mix, but I do want to get its transients
tamed enough that they'll survive playback across lots of kinds of
speakers.

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[LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Brent Busby, (Mon Sep 9, 10:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Tue Sep 10, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Sep 10, 7:30 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Sep 10, 9:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Sep 10, 11:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Brent Busby, (Wed Sep 11, 3:59 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Sep 11, 3:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Brent Busby, (Wed Sep 11, 6:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Sep 11, 7:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Brent Busby, (Wed Sep 11, 8:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ricardus Vincente, (Wed Sep 11, 9:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Sep 11, 9:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Sep 11, 10:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Bob van der Poel, (Fri Sep 13, 3:15 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Gene Heskett, (Fri Sep 13, 2:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Gordon JC Pearce, (Sat Sep 14, 8:17 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, david, (Sun Sep 15, 7:11 am)
[LAU] Landlines, was Re: M/S EQ in Linux, Gordon JC Pearce, (Sun Sep 15, 10:12 am)
Re: [LAU] Landlines, was Re: M/S EQ in Linux, Simon Wise, (Mon Sep 16, 6:57 am)
Re: [LAU] Landlines, was Re: M/S EQ in Linux, Will Godfrey, (Sun Sep 15, 2:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] Landlines, was Re: M/S EQ in Linux, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Sep 15, 10:55 am)
Re: [LAU] Landlines, was Re: M/S EQ in Linux, Joe Hartley, (Sun Sep 15, 2:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Sep 13, 6:36 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, david, (Fri Sep 13, 6:49 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Sep 13, 7:42 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Sep 13, 7:48 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Al Thompson, (Fri Sep 13, 3:34 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ricardus Vincente, (Wed Sep 11, 9:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Brent Busby, (Wed Sep 11, 9:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Sep 11, 8:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Sep 11, 7:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, david, (Wed Sep 11, 6:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, J. Liles, (Wed Sep 11, 7:31 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Sep 11, 4:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Sep 10, 8:09 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, J. Liles, (Tue Sep 10, 12:04 am)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, J. Liles, (Tue Sep 10, 9:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Sep 10, 10:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Joe Hartley, (Mon Sep 9, 10:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Kevin Cosgrove, (Mon Sep 9, 11:04 pm)
Re: [LAU] M/S EQ in Linux, Joe Hartley, (Mon Sep 9, 11:08 pm)