Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002

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Date: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 10:14 pm

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On 08/14/2013 04:00 AM, Louigi Verona wrote:

Hey Louigi,

I feel your frustration. I don't like it when things break, especially
during a performance or recording. However, I'm not sure what you're
want to accomplish by declaring that too much software is broken *and*
that you're not going to take part in the fix-up process, at least not
by making bug reports.

But the plain fact remains that for *your* purposes it's true that there
really is too much unfinished stuff out there. You come from a world
where music software is packaged neat and ready to roll, and you are
now trying to reach your musical goals in a world where no such
packaging exists as a matter of course. Frankly, I probably wouldn't
bother. I was initially attracted to Linux because of the software it
ran well, and fortunately for me it suited my musical tendencies. Today,
most of the software I use - Csound, Ardour, LADSPA, SuperCollider, etc
- is well-established and well-maintained, with large and active
development and user groups. You're using some of the latest things to
evolve in the Linux audio world, e.g. synth plugins and pattern-based
audio sequencers, most of which things have been in consistent
development on Windows and/or the Mac for many years. Unfortunately for
you and other musicians working in your artistic domains attention in
Linux audio has been paid to other directions. I do see things improving
in your direction, but only by fits and starts, hence the many
unfinished/broken projects. Alas, beyond bug reports, I have no
suggestions that will radically or readily improve the situation, though
I do seriously advise using money - a.k.a. the universal solvent - as an
incentive/motivator.

Best,

dp

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On 08/14/2013 04:00 AM, Louigi Verona
wrote:

Hey fellas!

This time talking of getting tired to file bug reports, get
the podcast here:
http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=writings&t=linux&a=linux_podcast

Would be interested in what you think!

Hey Louigi,

I feel your frustration. I don't like it when things break,
especially during a performance or recording. However, I'm not sure
what you're want to accomplish by declaring that too much software
is broken *and* that you're not going to take part in the fix-up
process, at least not by making bug reports.

But the plain fact remains that for *your* purposes it's true that
there really is too much unfinished stuff out there. You come from a
world where music software  is packaged neat and ready to roll, and
you are now trying to reach your musical goals in a world where no
such packaging exists as a matter of course. Frankly, I probably
wouldn't bother. I was initially attracted to Linux because of the
software it ran well, and fortunately for me it suited my musical
tendencies. Today, most of the software I use - Csound, Ardour,
LADSPA, SuperCollider, etc - is well-established and
well-maintained, with large and active development and user groups.
You're using some of the latest things to evolve in the Linux audio
world, e.g. synth plugins and pattern-based audio sequencers, most
of which things have been in consistent development on Windows
and/or the Mac for many years. Unfortunately for you and other
musicians working in your artistic domains attention in Linux audio
has been paid to other directions. I do see things improving in your
direction, but only by fits and starts, hence the many
unfinished/broken projects. Alas, beyond bug reports, I have no
suggestions that will radically or readily improve the situation,
though I do seriously advise using money - a.k.a. the universal
solvent - as an incentive/motivator.

Best,

dp

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[LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Louigi Verona, (Wed Aug 14, 8:00 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Devin Anderson, (Tue Aug 20, 7:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Louigi Verona, (Tue Aug 20, 9:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Dave Phillips, (Wed Aug 14, 10:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Chris Bannister, (Fri Aug 16, 11:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Ralf Mardorf, (Thu Aug 15, 12:17 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Julien Claassen, (Wed Aug 14, 7:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, J. Liles, (Wed Aug 14, 4:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, david, (Wed Aug 14, 5:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Chris Bannister, (Fri Aug 16, 11:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, drew Roberts, (Fri Aug 16, 2:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Aug 16, 1:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Chris Bannister, (Fri Aug 16, 2:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Aug 16, 2:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Chris Bannister, (Sun Aug 18, 7:05 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Aug 14, 4:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Dan MacDonald, (Wed Aug 14, 4:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, J. Liles, (Wed Aug 14, 4:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Paul Davis, (Wed Aug 14, 4:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, J. Liles, (Wed Aug 14, 4:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Dan MacDonald, (Wed Aug 14, 4:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, J. Liles, (Wed Aug 14, 5:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Russell Hanaghan, (Wed Aug 14, 5:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, J. Liles, (Wed Aug 14, 4:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Harry van Haaren, (Wed Aug 14, 2:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Paul Davis, (Wed Aug 14, 2:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Dan MacDonald, (Wed Aug 14, 9:29 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio podcast. episode002, Barney Holmes, (Wed Aug 14, 1:36 pm)