Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears

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To: Rusty Perez <rustys.lists@...>
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Date: Friday, July 5, 2013 - 9:42 am

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Hello Rusty!

As you referred to me in the original post, I just figured I'd briefly
explain what I mainly use the analyzer for. It's as simple as me not having
a subwoofer or a reliable set of headphones for the bass. Neither my
monitors nor my studio heaphones have any noteworthy bass-response under
70hz or so, which is where most of my bass is usually. I have a set of
headphones that are of the "gamer-kind", which I've learned to use for
bass. So, what I do when mixing usually, is that I use the analyzer to
check the bass. I've learned through my time mixing my things just about
how I want it to sound, or at least the general idea. It's in no way any
substitute for the final mix and master (where I find enough systems to
listen to, and reliably mix the bass), but it's an easy way for me to keep
it in control while I'm doing the heavy work.

That's my use-case at least. :)

On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Rusty Perez wrote:

> Yes Ralf and J. your distinction between measuring and just

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Hello Rusty!As you referred to me =
in the original post, I just figured I'd briefly explain what I mainly =
use the analyzer for. It's as simple as me not having a subwoofer or a =
reliable set of headphones for the bass. Neither my monitors nor my studio =
heaphones have any noteworthy bass-response under 70hz or so, which is wher=
e most of my bass is usually. I have a set of headphones that are of the &q=
uot;gamer-kind", which I've learned to use for bass. So, what I do=
when mixing usually, is that I use the analyzer to check the bass. I'v=
e learned through my time mixing my things just about how I want it to soun=
d, or at least the general idea. It's in no way any substitute for the =
final mix and master (where I find enough systems to listen to, and reliabl=
y mix the bass), but it's an easy way for me to keep it in control whil=
e I'm doing the heavy work.
That's my use-case at least. :)On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM, R=
usty Perez <rustys.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes Ralf and J. your distinction between mea=
suring and just
visualizing makes lots of sense to me. And Julien, I think you are
basically saying the same thing. A graphical tool may make it quicker
and easier to isolate problems and take measurements to improve audio
quality.

Monty, I'm going to play a little devil's advocate here.
I wouldn't say that anyone needs to throw away their measurement tools<=
br>
when engineering equipment for best performance, but I have heard of
blind listening comparisons where audiofiles couldn't reliably tell
the difference between two given studio amplifiers, or between given
sets of speaker cables.
I recognize that "just listen" may be a trite way of dismissing v=
alid
points, but isn't listening the primary goal here?
But I do agree with you that if using a visual representation helps
more quickly and accurately improve the auditory experience, then
that's a good thing.

Interesting stuff
Rusty

On 7/4/13, Ralf Mardorf <r=
alf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net
> wrote:

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[LAU] eyes verses ears, Rusty Perez, (Thu Jul 4, 5:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Monty Montgomery, (Fri Jul 5, 2:14 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, J. Liles, (Fri Jul 5, 4:36 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Paul Davis, (Fri Jul 5, 7:33 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Jul 5, 6:21 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Rusty Perez, (Fri Jul 5, 7:44 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Gabbe Nord, (Fri Jul 5, 9:42 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Julien Claassen, (Thu Jul 4, 9:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Bob van der Poel, (Thu Jul 4, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Rusty Perez, (Thu Jul 4, 8:45 pm)