Re: [LAU] My second album is done!

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To: Julien Claassen <julien@...>
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Date: Friday, July 5, 2013 - 9:38 am

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Julien: :D

Very well worth all the trouble. I'm speechless, thank you for the great
feedback! I will try and respond to it:

* I actually have sidechain compression on more or less all tracks of the
album, in various forms. I wouldn't call it overcompression per say, as
it's just acting as a tremolo, but I do compress a fair bit too. For the
pumping effect, I generally compress a little of almost everything (even
cymbals and crashes), which I think helps a little with the rhythm in the
song.
As for generally compressing as in "master compressing" (or what to call
it), the electronical songs especially I compress a lot, as that's how I
like them personally (thick and in your face kind of). I do however realize
that that's not what everyone likes. I have however "grown out of" a lot of
overcompression, at least if I can say so myself, as I no longer push my
mixes further just for the loudness. Who knows, maybe I'll dare mixing even
more dynamical next time around! ;)

* Ha! I was hoping you'd recognize brushing your teeth in the middle of my
album! ;) Thank you for the great samples, I put a link to them together
with a thank you on my website
(http://www.zthmusic.se/Ordinary_Day_Montageif you haven't seen)

* Full Moon: I tend to agree with you. It ended up being less
interesting/more "chilled out"-than I intended. Next time it'll be more
interesting, I promise! ;) And hahaha, sk=E5l! L=E4tt=F6l =E4r g=F6tt!

* Right on the money there with the german in the lecture hall. I liked the
ambient sample so much due to the clarity and stereo qualities of it, that
I just had to incorporate it to the name somehow.

* Interesting that Kojan actually exists! To make a long story short, koja
means something like "tree house" or "pillow fort" (not entirely accurate,
but still) in Swedish, and it's something I've come to call my "studio"
(read: corner of my apartment where I record music) just because I've put
up so many blankets for the acoustics (dunno if it helps, but it's fun)
that it looks like a koja. So that's why that got named like it did!

* With whitenoise, I'm just a sucker for it. That's one of the elements I
love the most about modern electronic music. I also love ambient sounds
(wind and waves in particular), and as it somehow sounds reminiscent of
wind and waves at the same time, it's something I really like and almost
always end up using.

Again, thank you very much for this Julien! It's always awesome to read
your feedback and thoughts, and I learn a lot from your observations that I
hopefully can improve on 'til next time. Speaking of next time, my current
plan is to make sure that the next kind of thing like this I do is 100%
with vocals on every track, in one form or another. Feels like it's time! ;=
)

Thanks again!

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Julien: :D=
Very well worth all the trouble. I'm speechless, thank you for th=
e great feedback! I will try and respond to it:* I actually h=
ave sidechain compression on more or less all tracks of the album, in vario=
us forms. I wouldn't call it overcompression per say, as it's just =
acting as a tremolo, but I do compress a fair bit too. For the pumping effe=
ct, I generally compress a little of almost everything (even cymbals and cr=
ashes), which I think helps a little with the rhythm in the song.
As for generally compressing as in "master compressing" (or what =
to call it), the electronical songs especially I compress a lot, as that&#3=
9;s how I like them personally (thick and in your face kind of). I do howev=
er realize that that's not what everyone likes. I have however "gr=
own out of" a lot of overcompression, at least if I can say so myself,=
as I no longer push my mixes further just for the loudness. Who knows, may=
be I'll dare mixing even more dynamical next time around! ;)
* Ha! I was hoping you'd recognize brushing your teeth in the=
middle of my album! ;) Thank you for the great samples, I put a link to th=
em together with a thank you on my website (http://www.zthmusic.se/Ordinary_Day_Montage if=
you haven't seen)
* Full Moon: I tend to agree with you. It ended up being less int=
eresting/more "chilled out"-than I intended. Next time it'll =
be more interesting, I promise! ;) And hahaha, sk=E5l! L=E4tt=F6l =E4r g=F6=
tt!
* Right on the money there with the german in the lecture hall. I=
liked the ambient sample so much due to the clarity and stereo qualities o=
f it, that I just had to incorporate it to the name somehow.
* Interesting that Kojan actually exists! To make a long story short, koja =
means something like "tree house" or "pillow fort" (not=
entirely accurate, but still) in Swedish, and it's something I've =
come to call my "studio" (read: corner of my apartment where I re=
cord music) just because I've put up so many blankets for the acoustics=
(dunno if it helps, but it's fun) that it looks like a koja. So that&#=
39;s why that got named like it did!
* With whitenoise, I'm just a sucker for it. That's one o=
f the elements I love the most about modern electronic music. I also love a=
mbient sounds (wind and waves in particular), and as it somehow sounds remi=
niscent of wind and waves at the same time, it's something I really lik=
e and almost always end up using.
Again, thank you very much for this Julien! It's always aweso=
me to read your feedback and thoughts, and I learn a lot from your observat=
ions that I hopefully can improve on 'til next time. Speaking of next t=
ime, my current plan is to make sure that the next kind of thing like this =
I do is 100% with vocals on every track, in one form or another. Feels like=
it's time! ;)
Thanks again!On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Julien Claassen <julien@ma=
il.upb.de
> wrote:
Hello Gabbe!
=A0 Before I begin to say any word about the music you made, I will say: th=
ank you for all the troubles you got up to to give me a chance to listen to=
it. This is very kind of you and - be assured - very much appreciated!

=A0 As a whole, I very much agree with Dave's vote of the clear sound a=
nd good mix. The mixes have power, sound well balanced to me. What's ev=
en better, is that they fall on willing ears. In recent weeks I've turn=
ed more and more towards electronic music.

=A0 the intro is a good introduction to the sonic world of your album. Slow=
ly taking me in, preparing for the Skandinavian sound and feel. The width a=
nd openness. Only to surprise me later on. there is that Skandinavian feel =
poking through, but not as obvious as before. I like the bassdrum of the in=
tro. It appears later on again. It has bite and pumps a little, not in a co=
mpression artefact way. It's somewhere between an edited acoustic bassd=
rum and something purely electronic. It might even fill the four-to-the-flo=
or niche.

=A0 It is alive is the nice four-to-the-floor piece. And it already shows s=
omething, which characterises the whole album. The tracks flow seemlessly f=
rom one into the other. Not only by ambient sounds, but by concept. If it h=
ad been me, I'd have mixed the snare louder. But that way it keeps the =
attention, while still deliviering. I can't completely let go with that=
, because, there is that small bit, which seems so uncharacteristic. I also=
love the somehow oneiric harmonies. Tending towards minor, yet rarely pure=
minor chords. While having a touch of 90s nostalgia about it, the mix soun=
ds very much like the current decade. Do you use "overcompression&quot=
; to get this slightly pumping effect? I noticed that throughout the album =
and had been wondering. If so: how do you compress? The whole song or only =
certain groups of instruments? - Again the bassdrum is nice, crisp and very=
well defined. Ha! The blend to Still is lovely. I recognise the sound and =
I must admit, that I never dreamt it could be used in such a place. Well se=
d.

=A0 Still: I think here the bassdrum is a little too loud in the mix, but n=
ot so loud as to bannish the thought of enjoyment. :-) And so we have turne=
d to a more hiphop styled track. And it still keeps in the spirit of the ea=
rlier tracks. As I said: it's a sonic world, this album. Listening to i=
t again, I feel, that so far, it appears more like a change in arrangement =
and style than in harmony. It's bordering on my threshhold of boredom. =
If it wasn't for the very nice mixes and well executed styles and the m=
orphing of one into the other... but there is that and it holds me. You kno=
w, that my threshhold of boredom is quite low. Since I'm still more of =
a prog and baroque listener than electronica.

=A0 Come and play; why not. I'm game. :-) This sets a much lighter tone=
. I love the slight touch of breakbeat in this piece. Also the main instrum=
ent is interesting. the way the piece changes from almost elevator music in=
to almost dubstep is great. The way the movement picks up and the arrangeme=
nt fills up from almost meditative spheric guitar to the full beat. Teh eff=
ects you used, the well-placed delay and how you managed to use that to ins=
tantly isolate the main "lead" and the rhythm in places. Well don=
e. good trick!

=A0 Full Moon baffled me at first. Perhaps because I approached it with pre=
formed notions, of what it should have been. That way it's the piece, t=
hat I still perceive as the weakest piece on this album. It sounds to commo=
n place for me. To worldly. The introduction and the "bridge" are=
the best bits. They talk to me of a full moon and the quiet night. The res=
t is more of the beach party next door with its drinking, barbecuing crowd.=
At least it's a Swedish party and not one of those Mallorca crimes, th=
at they probably call "a beach happening" or "afterwork holi=
day". :-) Get out the "let oel" and let's say "skol=
" (sorry can't spell it and didn't find it quickly :-) ).

=A0 I wonder, what you thought, when you called the next composition "=
Touchdown Germany"? Was it the ambient sound from the lecture hall at =
my uni? Or is it the plump beat? That beat, which makes me think of Flauber=
t, who said something about music of the heavens, that we hear, but only pr=
oduce something, which sounds like it's being played on rusting tin dru=
ms, written for crippled bears. :-) It has a very raw edge this piece, whil=
e keeping with the flow of the dreamy melodies.

=A0 the Circus reminds me even more of dubstep. Not really, but the stutter=
ing rhythm and this change from third notes in a quarter beat. Only your ve=
rsion of it is like Debusy's sweet juicy apple eaten with knife and for=
k in comparison to Gershwin. Neither is wrong or right, but one is more tam=
ed than the other. Rhythmic acrobatics in pensive music. A circus indeed. :=
-)

=A0 Have you ever been to Korea? If my quick look at google didn't lead=
me astray completely, it should be somewhere in South Korea. Whereever Koj=
an is, we have returned to the good, old idiom of hiphop with the drumkit f=
rom the first track. If I were to analyse this piece, I'd say the instr=
ument reminiscent of an electric piano in the middle has a slight touch of =
typica Asian harmony and the sawtoothy synth almost gives an impression of =
chiptunes synthesis. With the impressions we get, I might suggest, that thi=
s is to conjure up an idea of all those game consoles, that the youngsters =
over there love so much or at least use so much. One of my old classmates w=
ould at least agree with the interest in game consoles, if not wioth my imp=
lications on this piece. :-) In a way it's a good song to lead me out. =
It seems so much more worldly. The applause, the crowd, the rest of the wor=
ld, that stands so far removed from the images of moonlit nights - parties =
or no parties - and the still, windy atmosphere of the album. You worked a =
great deal with white noise, which gives one the feeling of wind in the dun=
es. It's a sound I heard a lot in radioplays and this white noise patch=
- or patches - are close to that sound. Somewhere between wind and waves o=
r the mixture of the two?

=A0 All in all, it's a good album and I will be sure to listen to it ag=
ain. Perhaps not in one go, as I did today, but now I've taken in teh a=
tmosphere, I can quickly travel back there. It's a good piece of work A=
lways slightly dreamy, dark, depressive and still with a consoling lightnes=
s behind the pregnant beats and occasional distorted synths. A good balance=
between the single mindedness of centre beats and basses and parnoramic ha=
rmonies and effects. I like it. And I hope, that you will get a whole load =
of feedback and a couple of new listeners.

=A0 What will you give us next time? Perhaps once more something with the o=
ccasional lyrics? Some Swedish hiphop or some English song of longing? Or s=
omething different?
=A0 Warm regards and thanks for sharing
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Julien

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