Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears

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To: Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@...>
Cc: linux-audio-user <Linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Friday, July 5, 2013 - 4:36 am

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On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Monty Montgomery wrote:

> > A mix is purely an auditory medium, right? So, (and I'll play dumb

Let's not forget the distinction between visualization and measurement. The
number of people (and we're talking about musicians/producers here) looking
at visualizations of audio and the number actually using the visualization
to measure something meaningful are, I imagine, very different. Measurement
is obviously invaluable when designing DSP algorithms etc. It is not
necessary *at all* in order to make music. Peak/clipping indicators are
pretty handy, but after that the returns diminish rapidly.

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On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Monty Montgomery =
<xiphmont@gmail.=
com
> wrote:

ditory medium, right? So, (and I'll play dumb

Eyes are better at some things than ears.

A regular example from some audiophile equipment forums... =C2=A0I won'=
t
name names, but on one particular forum 'Just listen!' is used as a=

panacea to dismiss any kind of scientific or objective discussion of
equipment.

The obvious response is, "Are you suggesting [Company name] take the
oscilloscopes, spectrum analyzers, multimeters and computers away from
their design engineers?"

Visualization can be quite useful, even in audio.

Cheers,
MontyLet's not forget the distinct=
ion between visualization and measurement. The number of people (and we&#39=
;re talking about musicians/producers here) looking at visualizations of au=
dio and the number actually using the visualization to measure something me=
aningful are, I imagine, very different. Measurement is obviously invaluabl=
e when designing DSP algorithms etc. It is not necessary *at all* in order =
to make music. Peak/clipping indicators are pretty handy, but after that th=
e returns diminish rapidly.

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Messages in current thread:
[LAU] eyes verses ears, Rusty Perez, (Thu Jul 4, 5:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Monty Montgomery, (Fri Jul 5, 2:14 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, J. Liles, (Fri Jul 5, 4:36 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Paul Davis, (Fri Jul 5, 7:33 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Jul 5, 6:21 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Rusty Perez, (Fri Jul 5, 7:44 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Gabbe Nord, (Fri Jul 5, 9:42 am)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Julien Claassen, (Thu Jul 4, 9:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Bob van der Poel, (Thu Jul 4, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] eyes verses ears, Rusty Perez, (Thu Jul 4, 8:45 pm)