Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2

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To: Julien Claassen <julien@...>
Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@...>, David Robillard <d@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 10:01 pm

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Am 14.05.2013 23:42, schrieb Julien Claassen:

There is a way to load files and let he host provide a "interface" for
that. convoLV2 by Robin Gareus provides
a example of how to do it. As I said, it is more a question of
communication, not, of if it is possible. Mostly, plugin developers, as
well as host developers are simply to lazy to keep it in mind that
accessibility plays a rule. What I say, is, it is unfair to give the LV2
standard the blame, for the laziness of developers.
Indeed, there are a couple of guitarix plugs, and they all keep the
communication with the host in mind (eg. they don' t relay on there
custom UI), but to be honest, not a single one of them needs to load a file.

greets
hermann

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Am 14.05.2013 23:42, schrieb Julien Claassen:
Hello Hermann!

  In the end it almost comes down to the same point. At least from
my point of view. The host might - in theory - have a go at
receiving and sending such extra messages, but since they are not
normed in any way, the plugin and its UI can practically do what
they want.

  There are a couple of plugins, that load files (samplv2, zyn, I
think the IR convolver,...) and they all rely on their GUIs. It
seems to me, that it's mostly loading and saving of files, that is
done outside the LV2 plugin ports.

  So in more general terms, I ask myself: why is that so? Was
there no room in the specification to allow "sntadardised"
transmission of strings? It's not an abnormal thing one wants to
do? I think there is an LV2 version of Guitarix, is there not? Can
you load files into anything or give names to something? If so,
how do you do it?

  Warm regards

        Julien

There is a  way to load files and let he host provide a "interface"
for that. convoLV2 by Robin Gareus
provides a example of how to do it. As I said, it is more a
question of communication, not, of if it is possible. Mostly,
plugin developers, as well as host developers are simply to lazy
to keep it in mind that accessibility plays a rule. What I say,
is, it is unfair to give the LV2 standard the blame, for the
laziness of developers.
Indeed, there are a couple of guitarix plugs, and they all keep
the communication with the host in mind (eg. they don' t relay on
there custom UI), but to be honest, not a single one of them needs
to load a file.

greets
hermann

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[LAU] Questions about LV2, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 14, 9:35 am)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Jeremy Jongepier, (Tue May 14, 9:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 14, 10:05 am)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Florian Paul Schmidt, (Tue May 14, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 14, 10:27 am)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, J. Liles, (Tue May 14, 5:37 pm)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Paul Davis, (Wed May 15, 9:16 am)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, J. Liles, (Wed May 15, 5:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 14, 5:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, hermann meyer, (Tue May 14, 9:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Harry van Haaren, (Tue May 14, 9:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Julien Claassen, (Tue May 14, 9:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, hermann meyer, (Tue May 14, 10:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Harry van Haaren, (Tue May 14, 9:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Rui Nuno Capela, (Wed May 15, 11:20 am)
Re: [LAU] Questions about LV2, Florian Paul Schmidt, (Tue May 14, 10:42 am)