Re: [LAU] ABX test invite

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Date: Friday, April 5, 2013 - 7:27 pm

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Thanks for posting this. I cannot tell the difference with ABX - even for
the 108 version - so I guess either my ears are shot (quite likely) or my
ears are not able to hear such subtleties (also quire likely).. In any
case, it is amazing how good the mp3 quality is. I think the only way to
hear the deficits in this would be to really listen to the quality
(qualities?) of the recording rather than the music - a bit like
concentrating on the hiss on cassette tape, or the clicks/surface noise on
vinyl.. If the music is good enough, I cease to worry about such things.

To my mind, a slight loss of quality (invisible to my ears) is a small
price to pay in exchange for the much smaller file size...

James

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Peder Hedlund wrote:

> In view of the recent debate regarding the alledged "crappiness" of MP3 I

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Thanks for posting this. I cannot tell the difference=
with ABX - even for the 108 version - so I guess either my ears are shot (=
quite likely) or my ears are not able to hear such subtleties (also quire l=
ikely).. In any case, it is amazing how good the mp3 quality is. I think th=
e only way to hear the deficits in this would be to really listen to the qu=
ality (qualities?) of the recording rather than the music - a bit like conc=
entrating on the hiss on cassette tape, or the clicks/surface noise on viny=
l.. If the music is good enough, I cease to worry about such things.
To my mind, a slight loss of quality (invisible to my ears) is a small =
price to pay in exchange for the much smaller file size...Jam=
esOn=
Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Peder Hedlund <peder@musikhuset.org=

In view of the recent debate regarding the a=
lledged "crappiness" of MP3 I thought it would be fun to see if t=
he LAU society can tell lame (v3.99.4) MP3s from the original.

Everyone is invited to download the testfiles from http://www.musikhuset.org/=
~peder/AxelF.zip
, see if you can ABX them and post the result.<=
br>

There's one original WAV file and then 3 MP3s of various bitrates, whic=
h have all been converted back to WAV.

The 165 MP3 was created using "-V4", the 124 "-V6" and =
the 108 "-V8 --resample 44.1" (since it wanted to make a 24 kHz f=
ile otherwise).

- Peder
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[LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Wed Apr 3, 11:01 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, James Stone, (Fri Apr 5, 7:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Fri Apr 5, 11:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Apr 5, 9:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Apr 5, 9:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Apr 5, 10:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Apr 6, 12:44 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Sat Apr 6, 1:03 am)
[LAU] Definition of "sound quality", Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Apr 6, 2:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Definition of "sound quality", Charles Z Henry, (Sat Apr 6, 2:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] Definition of "sound quality", Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Apr 6, 1:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Apr 6, 1:22 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Wed Apr 3, 7:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Thomas Vecchione, (Fri Apr 5, 5:26 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Raffaele Morelli, (Fri Apr 5, 6:26 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Fri Apr 5, 9:02 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Thomas Vecchione, (Fri Apr 5, 11:44 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Apr 5, 1:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Fri Apr 5, 2:57 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Apr 5, 6:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Felix Homann, (Sat Apr 6, 7:24 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Apr 6, 8:53 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Sat Apr 6, 12:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Apr 6, 1:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Sat Apr 6, 1:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Fri Apr 5, 11:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Apr 6, 1:43 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Apr 6, 1:42 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Chris Bannister, (Sat Apr 6, 12:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Florian Paul Schmidt, (Fri Apr 5, 2:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Thomas Vecchione, (Fri Apr 5, 5:06 pm)
[LAU] Fair use laws - Was: ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Apr 5, 2:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Fri Apr 5, 12:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Thomas Vecchione, (Fri Apr 5, 5:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Apr 5, 5:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Paul Davis, (Fri Apr 5, 12:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Thomas Vecchione, (Fri Apr 5, 5:04 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Raffaele Morelli, (Wed Apr 3, 11:55 am)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Apr 3, 12:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, James Stone, (Wed Apr 3, 3:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Apr 3, 4:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Wed Apr 3, 1:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Wed Apr 3, 1:35 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Apr 3, 3:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Peder Hedlund, (Wed Apr 3, 12:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] ABX test invite, Raffaele Morelli, (Wed Apr 3, 12:40 pm)