[LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's

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To: linux-audio-user <Linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013 - 12:26 pm

Dear all,

I got two cheap drumpads here that are _exactly_ the same, also on the
inside (PCB's have the same revision ID):
http://dx.com/p/portable-roll-up-usb-drum-kit-118841
But they get recognized differently, one as an USB MIDI device and the
other as an USB HID device. And when it gets recognized as a HID device
it's pretty useless because I can't hook it up easily to software that
accepts MIDI input.

This is the "working" drumpad (the one that gets recognized as an USB
MIDI device):
/var/log/syslog:
Mar 3 13:09:40 piertje kernel: [ 864.820341] usb 5-2: new full-speed
USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd
Mar 3 13:09:40 piertje mtp-probe: checking bus 5, device 2:
"/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb5/5-2"
Mar 3 13:09:40 piertje mtp-probe: bus: 5, device: 2 was not an MTP device
Mar 3 13:09:40 piertje kernel: [ 865.123664] usbcore: registered new
interface driver snd-usb-audio
Mar 3 13:09:40 piertje pulseaudio[2044]: [pulseaudio]
module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
Mar 3 13:09:40 piertje pulseaudio[2044]: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed
to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1"
name="usb-UTECK_MIDI_DRUM-00-DRUM"
card_name="alsa_card.usb-UTECK_MIDI_DRUM-00-DRUM" namereg_fail=false
tsched=yes ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes
card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.

lsusb:
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0218:0001 Hangzhou Worlde

This is the non working drumpad:
/var/log/syslog:
Mar 2 20:49:45 piertje kernel: [ 3040.388297] usb 5-1: new full-speed
USB device number 7 using uhci_hcd
Mar 2 20:49:45 piertje mtp-probe: checking bus 5, device 7:
"/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb5/5-1"
Mar 2 20:49:45 piertje mtp-probe: bus: 5, device: 7 was not an MTP device
Mar 2 20:49:45 piertje kernel: [ 3040.602562] generic-usb
0003:1941:8021.0001: hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device
[HID 1941:8021] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1/input0

lsusb:
Bus 005 Device 005: ID 1941:8021 Dream Link WH1080 Weather Station / USB
Missile Launcher

So my questions are, why does this happen? The PCB is extremely simple
and only has one small IC. Is the USB ID determined by this IC? And the
big question, can I trick this non working pad to get recognized as a
valid USB MIDI device? I already looked into this (unbinding, binding,
new_id) but can't get it to work. And I'm 100% sure these pads are
exactly the same.
I could use this: https://code.google.com/p/drumroll/
But I get the idea this is not necessary. drumroll also already consumes
4% CPU on my notebook and I want to use this drumpad with my Raspberry
Pi, besides, it's extra overhead and only runs SUID.
So anybody any idea how I could trick my system in properly recognizing
this non working drumpad? I don't mind hacking kernel modules if that
would be necessary.

Thanks in advance,

Jeremy
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[LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Mar 3, 12:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sat Mar 9, 8:41 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Gabriel Beddingfield, (Sat Mar 9, 9:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sat Mar 9, 9:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Clemens Ladisch, (Sun Mar 10, 11:33 am)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Mar 10, 2:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Clemens Ladisch, (Sun Mar 17, 4:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Mon Mar 18, 8:41 am)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Mar 9, 9:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sat Mar 9, 8:35 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Peder Hedlund, (Mon Mar 4, 8:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Mar 10, 9:55 am)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Mar 3, 7:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Johannes Kroll, (Sun Mar 3, 3:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Mar 3, 7:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Johannes Kroll, (Sun Mar 3, 3:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sat Mar 9, 8:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Mar 3, 7:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Two exact same drumpads, different USB ID's, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Mar 3, 7:07 pm)