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On 02/16/2013 08:35 PM, Simon Wise wrote:

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> On 17/02/13 05:24, david wrote:

>

>> The way to handle updates on Sid: start with Aptosid. Update only

>> those apps

>> that you find you need to update. I use Rosegarden, and it had some

>> bug fixes

>> that addressed issues I had with it, and Debian Stable was never going

>> to get

>> the fixes. (Neither did backports, as far as I know, but when I was using

>> Stable, I found backports pretty useless.)

>

> I've used aptosid's ancestors that way since that same team made

> kannotix back when etch was sid ... but it seems that they may have

> gotten tired of it or something ... only one new release last year and

> very little other visible activity ... one of the core team (there are

> about a dozen that have been doing it together since 2006) has set up

> different version, but unfortunately it does not seem nearly so

> rigorous, even if it seems a lot more open, friendly and perhaps more

> active. So not sure about the future of that option. It has been a great

> not-really-a-distribution for a long time.

Aptosid's team has been through a lot of struggle, recuperating from the

conflict with their former treasurer or something like that. They did

some updates in January 2013, including VirtualBox (that's where I get

it) so they're not completely dead.
>> FWIW, I'm running Sid on my two main systems (desktop and laptop). I

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>> also have

>> deb-multimedia in the repository collection, along with a couple of

>> PPAs such as

>> one for the real cdrecord.

>

> The deb-multimedia stuff is much less needed than it was a few years

> ago, and it can certainly bite you with incompatibilities ... esp on

> sid, their libraries are not always binary compatible but they will be

> the ones installed on your system (if you don't pin stuff or actively

> manage what gets brought in from the repository). They version them as

> more recent than the debian ones for this reason, but unfortunately the

> other debian audio apps that they don't package sometimes get broken by

> this, since they are built against the debian libraries.

Hmm, last time I checked, none of the deb-multimedia versions were set

to be more recent than the Sid ones. They're also not automatically

upgradeable, apparently. At least, last time I did a system upgrade (not

dist-upgrade) it didn't upgrade any of the deb-multimedia packages, even

though some of them had been upgraded by deb-multimedia. At least I have

to manually upgrade one if I want to.
I mostly use it for the win32 codecs, AACS keys, easytag, mplayer.
> Of course without something from outside you will be missing some things

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> that debian still finds un-redistributable (even after relaxing their

> approach on software patents and allowing a lot more codecs in).

> Probably best to just fetch a couple of apps from the repository and

> install them directly rather than enable the whole repository.

I don't always agree with Debian's personal idiocies, such as their

hatred of cdrecord. I replaced wodim with cdrecord, and was surprised to

find out that CD burning WORKED ON MY LAPTOP AGAIN. Wodim had been

failing with "hardware" errors for a few years before that.
--

David

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