Re: [LAU] Audio distros

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To: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@...>
Cc: Linux Audio Users <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 1:34 pm

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On Feb 16, 2013 6:02 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote:

or old Ubuntu Studio.
"things" are "occult" in the sense of "hidden" ;). FWIW, all ADAT channels
of my RME card, that aren't working for Linux, are working for my FreeBSD.
The Xfce menu icon of FreeBSD only, is replaced by a pentagram, for me it's
just some kind of asterisk, without any super cow powers, but perhaps this
does the magic. The next Xfce install will get the same icon ;D.
switch to systemd.
complete and that there are no serious issues any more, but trying to
install it yesterday, I suspect that mails regarding to issues simply are
rejected.
the transition to systemd isn't finished yet and perhaps the next wicked
transition already will be enforced in a hidden way. Just an assumption, I
don't claim that it is that way.
moderation, eth0 isn't up and doing it as usual doesn't work, I read rude
words about request to keep Wayland optional. It seems to be, that some
people using X anyway need to install Wayland.
to get help, but I also need clarification in what direction Arch Linux
will go in the near future and I prefer a distro with a sane mailing list.
I have several generations installed, from 10.10 Maverick to 12.10 Quantal.
The performance on my machine dramatically slows down with each release.
Quantal for some tasks already is unusable, a lot of the non-audio desktop
apps I need are buggy and this isn't an issue for my machine, but the
troubles are common, for many users.

Out of interest, what problems do you have with ubuntu studio? I have found
it to be by far the easiest to set up out of the box with no major bugs so
far..

Things were getting slow on my 10 yr old computer, but that mainly seemed
to be due to the ever increasing "richness" (bloat) on web-based content..
not an ubuntu issue as far as I could see.. had the same performance issues
with debian sid.

James

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On Feb 16, 2013 6:02 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:

h Linux or old Ubuntu Studio.
indeed some "things" are "occult" in the sense of &quot=
;hidden" ;). FWIW, all ADAT channels of my RME card, that aren't w=
orking for Linux, are working for my FreeBSD. The Xfce menu icon of FreeBSD=
only, is replaced by a pentagram, for me it's just some kind of asteri=
sk, without any super cow powers, but perhaps this does the magic. The next=
Xfce install will get the same icon ;D.

>

d switch to systemd.
s complete and that there are no serious issues any more, but trying to ins=
tall it yesterday, I suspect that mails regarding to issues simply are reje=
cted.

>

ly the transition to systemd isn't finished yet and perhaps the next wi=
cked transition already will be enforced in a hidden way. Just an assumptio=
n, I don't claim that it is that way.

>

ist moderation, eth0 isn't up and doing it as usual doesn't work, I=
read rude words about request to keep Wayland optional. It seems to be, th=
at some people using X anyway need to install Wayland.

>

l possible to get help, but I also need clarification in what direction Arc=
h Linux will go in the near future and I prefer a distro with a sane mailin=
g list.

>

dio I have several generations installed, from 10.10 Maverick to 12.10 Quan=
tal. The performance on my machine dramatically slows down with each releas=
e. Quantal for some tasks already is unusable, a lot of the non-audio deskt=
op apps I need are buggy and this isn't an issue for my machine, but th=
e troubles are common, for many users.

Out of interest, what problems do you have with ubuntu studio? I have fo=
und it to be by far the easiest to set up out of the box with no major bugs=
so far..
Things were getting slow on my 10 yr old computer, but that mainly seeme=
d to be due to the ever increasing "richness" (bloat) on web-base=
d content.. not an ubuntu issue as far as I could see.. had the same perfor=
mance issues with debian sid.

James

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[LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 6:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Jonathan E. Brickman, (Sat Feb 16, 8:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 8:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Oon-Ee Ng, (Sat Feb 16, 11:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 9:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Joe Hartley, (Sat Feb 16, 2:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Brendan Jones, (Sat Feb 16, 4:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 3:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, James Stone, (Sat Feb 16, 8:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 9:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, John Murphy, (Sat Feb 16, 8:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sun Feb 17, 7:46 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, John Murphy, (Mon Feb 18, 11:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, James Stone, (Sat Feb 16, 1:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sat Feb 16, 6:14 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 6:40 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sat Feb 16, 1:20 pm)
[LAU] Debian sid Re: Audio distros, Andreas Kuckartz, (Sun Feb 17, 8:03 am)
Re: [LAU] Debian sid Re: Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 3:11 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sat Feb 16, 9:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sun Feb 17, 6:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sun Feb 17, 6:50 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 12:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 2:23 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Tue Feb 19, 1:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Wed Feb 20, 8:34 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Feb 19, 8:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Wed Feb 20, 7:38 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Feb 20, 11:16 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Thu Feb 21, 5:11 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sat Feb 23, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sat Feb 23, 3:41 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Gene Heskett, (Sat Feb 23, 5:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sat Feb 23, 6:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Stefan Stefanov, (Mon Mar 25, 3:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Egor Sanin, (Mon Mar 25, 4:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Harry van Haaren, (Mon Mar 25, 5:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, hermann meyer, (Mon Mar 25, 5:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Paul Davis, (Mon Mar 25, 3:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Bob van der Poel, (Sat Feb 23, 6:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Wed Feb 20, 7:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, (Sat Feb 16, 8:03 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Folderol, (Sat Feb 16, 9:51 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 3:28 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sun Feb 17, 4:04 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Folderol, (Sun Feb 17, 3:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 6:41 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Feb 17, 1:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sun Feb 17, 7:31 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 12:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sun Feb 17, 4:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sun Feb 17, 4:37 pm)
[LAU] OT: Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Feb 17, 4:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Tue Feb 19, 8:08 am)
[LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), Joe Hartley, (Sun Feb 17, 4:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), drew Roberts, (Sun Feb 17, 8:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), Robin Gareus, (Sun Feb 17, 8:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), Chris Bannister, (Mon Feb 18, 4:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), James Stone, (Mon Feb 18, 4:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sun Feb 17, 7:01 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 2:51 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Tue Feb 19, 8:00 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Wed Feb 20, 8:10 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, drew Roberts, (Wed Feb 20, 2:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Thu Feb 21, 5:07 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, drew Roberts, (Thu Feb 21, 3:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Thu Feb 21, 8:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, drew Roberts, (Thu Feb 21, 9:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Fri Feb 22, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Wed Feb 20, 8:44 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Thu Feb 21, 5:13 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Feb 17, 1:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sun Feb 17, 6:56 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 12:35 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 2:24 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sun Feb 17, 8:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 2:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Tue Feb 19, 7:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Tue Feb 19, 7:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Feb 17, 4:49 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sat Feb 16, 2:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sun Feb 17, 12:25 am)