Re: [LAU] Audio distros

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Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013 - 1:20 pm

On 16/02/13 14:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> Debian Sid might be ok, I just have no good feelings regarding to the state

in Debian unstable means changing (4 times a day I think), stable means frozen
... i.e. you have the choice of a version with very current packages (obviously
also somewhat less tested) or one which is very much more tested but based on a
freeze that was 6 months ago when it is first released, up to 30 months ago by
the time it is replaced by next stable version. The freeze really means frozen,
but there is the backports system with newer packages if you want.

One way to use sid is install it on a second partition, work with it for a bit
updating only those few bits that need the fresh fixes ... then once you get the
system working as you want ... leave it alone! Forget about the system and do
your audio. Some time later you may be tempted by some new features in versions
that are now months ahead of the rest of your system, here you need to be
careful. Apt-get will show you what it is about to do, say no if it is too
drastic! Best copy your system to that other partition so you have a known fully
working backup ... then upgrade etc.

Something that the (now quite inactive) aptosid did so they could offer a
rolling sid using dist-upgrade was they set up a special runlevel in init
without X for doing the upgrades in text mode. It isn't that hard, just tweak
the /etc/rc.d directories and do init 3 (or whatever) before upgrading. And yes,
init and run levels are the default in the soon to be released new stable so it
will be default there for another two years. They tend to be very conservative
with core system stuff. I used aptosid for many years without a hitch, but they
kept a close eye on problems and held back updates with issues so you could
dist-upgrade from time to time quite safely.

Eventually you will want to upgrade properly ... install a fresh, current sid in
your other partition or whatever and get it set up as you like it before
swapping to that as your main system.

The other very workable Debian option is to use the current stable with a few
newer packages from backports. You get much less of the latest, but you do not
live on the edge either. I haven't done that but there are at least a few audio
packages that get their newish versions ported on backports.

Simon

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[LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 6:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Jonathan E. Brickman, (Sat Feb 16, 8:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 8:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Oon-Ee Ng, (Sat Feb 16, 11:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 9:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Joe Hartley, (Sat Feb 16, 2:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Brendan Jones, (Sat Feb 16, 4:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 3:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, James Stone, (Sat Feb 16, 8:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 9:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, John Murphy, (Sat Feb 16, 8:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sun Feb 17, 7:46 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, John Murphy, (Mon Feb 18, 11:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, James Stone, (Sat Feb 16, 1:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sat Feb 16, 6:14 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 16, 6:40 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sat Feb 16, 1:20 pm)
[LAU] Debian sid Re: Audio distros, Andreas Kuckartz, (Sun Feb 17, 8:03 am)
Re: [LAU] Debian sid Re: Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 3:11 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sat Feb 16, 9:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sun Feb 17, 6:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sun Feb 17, 6:50 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 12:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 2:23 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Tue Feb 19, 1:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Wed Feb 20, 8:34 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Feb 19, 8:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Wed Feb 20, 7:38 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Feb 20, 11:16 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Thu Feb 21, 5:11 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sat Feb 23, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sat Feb 23, 3:41 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Gene Heskett, (Sat Feb 23, 5:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sat Feb 23, 6:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Stefan Stefanov, (Mon Mar 25, 3:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Egor Sanin, (Mon Mar 25, 4:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Harry van Haaren, (Mon Mar 25, 5:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, hermann meyer, (Mon Mar 25, 5:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Paul Davis, (Mon Mar 25, 3:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Bob van der Poel, (Sat Feb 23, 6:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Wed Feb 20, 7:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, (Sat Feb 16, 8:03 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Folderol, (Sat Feb 16, 9:51 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 3:28 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sun Feb 17, 4:04 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Folderol, (Sun Feb 17, 3:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 6:41 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Feb 17, 1:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sun Feb 17, 7:31 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 12:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Len Ovens, (Sun Feb 17, 4:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sun Feb 17, 4:37 pm)
[LAU] OT: Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Feb 17, 4:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] OT: Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Tue Feb 19, 8:08 am)
[LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), Joe Hartley, (Sun Feb 17, 4:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), drew Roberts, (Sun Feb 17, 8:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), Robin Gareus, (Sun Feb 17, 8:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), Chris Bannister, (Mon Feb 18, 4:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] (OT) list addresses (was Re: Audio distros), James Stone, (Mon Feb 18, 4:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sun Feb 17, 7:01 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 2:51 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Tue Feb 19, 8:00 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Wed Feb 20, 8:10 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, drew Roberts, (Wed Feb 20, 2:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Thu Feb 21, 5:07 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, drew Roberts, (Thu Feb 21, 3:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Thu Feb 21, 8:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, drew Roberts, (Thu Feb 21, 9:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Fri Feb 22, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Wed Feb 20, 8:44 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Thu Feb 21, 5:13 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Feb 17, 1:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sun Feb 17, 6:56 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Chris Bannister, (Sun Feb 17, 12:35 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 2:24 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Sun Feb 17, 8:02 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Mon Feb 18, 2:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Simon Wise, (Tue Feb 19, 7:36 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Tue Feb 19, 7:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Feb 17, 4:49 am)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sat Feb 16, 2:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Audio distros, david, (Sun Feb 17, 12:25 am)