Re: [LAU] mixing advice/assistance needed

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To: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@...>
Cc: LAU <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 3:03 pm

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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Brendan Jones
wrote:

> I listened to yours as well, and I'd say it is the cleaner of the three,

While I am not really out to defend or otherwise what I did in 15 minutes,
I will say two things on this. This does come down to personal preference
to an extent, while I obviously boosted the highs, and I thought Fon's was
an improvement, I also thought that Fon's highs were a bit too harsh from
being boosted so much personally. As I said, a lot comes down to personal
opinion and for something that was done in a relatively short timespan, for
I am certain all of us, there is a lot of subjectiveness going on:)

The other thing I will say is that part of why I chose not to boost the
highs any stronger is there is already evidence of something undesired
going on in that section I needed to track down, and boosting them farther
just brought that out more. This is not the same thing that led to what I
believe to be the harshness in Fon's version, most likely this is related
to a phase problem introduced by the amount of EQ used or specific EQs I
did use as I used several different filters (Ranging from Harrison, to
Glame, to LinuxDSP), or it is possible it is artifacts from the multiband
gating I used to clean up the hiss, or possibly one of those accentuated by
the other. The end result is that with that going on I felt it better not
to boost any more;)

All that being said I do like several things about Fon's and was tempted to
just see how it sounded if I merely cleaned it up a bit. But decided not
to in my case for a variety of reasons:)

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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@gmail.com> wrote:
I listened to yours as well, and I'd say=
it is the cleaner of the three, however it still does exhibit the same pro=
blems as the original (namely the highs need to be boosted)
While I =
am not really out to defend or otherwise what I did in 15 minutes, I will s=
ay two things on this.=A0 This does come down to personal preference to an =
extent, while I obviously boosted the highs, and I thought Fon's was an=
improvement, I also thought that Fon's highs were a bit too harsh from=
being boosted so much personally.=A0 As I said, a lot comes down to person=
al opinion and for something that was done in a relatively short timespan, =
for I am certain all of us, there is a lot of subjectiveness going on:)
The other thing I will say is that part of why I chose not t=
o boost the highs any stronger is there is already evidence of something un=
desired going on in that section I needed to track down, and boosting them =
farther just brought that out more.=A0 This is not the same thing that led =
to what I believe to be the harshness in Fon's version, most likely thi=
s is related to a phase problem introduced by the amount of EQ used or spec=
ific EQs I did use as I used several different filters (Ranging from Harris=
on, to Glame, to LinuxDSP), or it is possible it is artifacts from the mult=
iband gating I used to clean up the hiss, or possibly one of those accentua=
ted by the other.=A0 The end result is that with that going on I felt it be=
tter not to boost any more;)
All that being said I do like several things about Fon's and was te=
mpted to just see how it sounded if I merely cleaned it up a bit.=A0 But de=
cided not to in my case for a variety of reasons:)=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Seablade

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Re: [LAU] mixing advice/assistance needed, Tim Goetze, (Sat Feb 16, 10:18 pm)
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Re: [LAU] mixing advice/assistance needed, Fons Adriaensen, (Thu Feb 14, 9:32 pm)
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Re: [LAU] mixing advice/assistance needed, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Feb 13, 11:23 pm)
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