Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?

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Date: Monday, February 11, 2013 - 7:22 pm

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:36 AM, renato wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:00:05 +0100

The list of programs supporting NSM is a bit longer than the linuxaudio
wiki would suggest. Still... As to the question of why so little support:
Although NSM was invented before jack-session, it was not released until
jack-session had been in the wild for some time. So jack-session got a bit
of a head start on patching. This was simply due to the complications of
life. LASH also had very few programs supporting it in its first years. To
date, NSM support was implemented by yours truly in all but one of the NSM
capable clients... I have a lot of projects and not a lot of time, so
patching other people's software has to be on the back burner. The real
issue is that session management is more of a users' problem than it is a
developers' problem, so there's historically been very limited interest
from developers in supporting any kind of SM, especially from developers of
monolithic applications. That being said, NSM is fairly well documented and
easy to implement support for, so the ball is in your court.

Even the few applications that are NSM-enabled comprise a complete studio.

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:36 AM, renato=
<rennabh@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:00:05 +0100
Ivan Tarozzi <itarozzi@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any tips? Thanks!

Hi, I must admit I only tried briefly, long ago, ladish and
jack-session, and for one reason or another I dropped them...
recently though I've been trying out non session manager, and I must sa=
y
I really really like it:

pros:
+ it's dead simple but functional, I'd say it follows the KISS prin=
ciple
+ nsm-proxy, which lets you use *any* application in a session
+ fast session switching for supported apps
+ supports session management over network

The only "cons" I could think of is that ATM *very* few apps supp=
ort
it, but that isn't it's fault right?

I actually don't understand this situation, why so many support
jack-session but so little nsm (just look at [1] vs [2])? There
was a big discussion last year [3] and all the devs that took part in
the discussion, except Rui, agreed that it was the best session manager
for a variety of reasons... so why so little support for it?

cheers,
renato

[1] http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/categories/jack_session<=
br>
[2] http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/categories/nsm
[3] http://www.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lad/2012/3/22/18911=
9
The list of programs supporting NSM is a bit=
longer than the linuxaudio wiki would suggest. Still... As to the question=
of why so little support: Although NSM was invented before jack-session, i=
t was not released until jack-session had been in the wild for some time. S=
o jack-session got a bit of a head start on patching. This was simply due t=
o the complications of life. LASH also had very few programs supporting it =
in its first years. To date, NSM support was implemented by yours truly in =
all but one of the NSM capable clients... I have a lot of projects and not =
a lot of time, so patching other people's software has to be on the bac=
k burner. The real issue is that session management is more of a users'=
problem than it is a developers' problem, so there's historically =
been very limited interest from developers in supporting any kind of SM, es=
pecially from developers of monolithic applications. That being said, NSM i=
s fairly well documented and easy to implement support for, so the ball is =
in your court.
Even the few applications that are NSM-enabled comprise a complete stud=
io.

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[LAU] Session manager: what about?, Ivan Tarozzi, (Mon Feb 11, 3:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, Dave Phillips, (Mon Feb 11, 6:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, Ivan Tarozzi, (Mon Feb 11, 10:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, renato, (Mon Feb 11, 6:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, J. Liles, (Mon Feb 11, 7:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, brummer-, (Mon Feb 11, 7:37 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, J. Liles, (Mon Feb 11, 7:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, brummer-, (Mon Feb 11, 8:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, renato, (Mon Feb 11, 9:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Feb 11, 3:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] Session manager: what about?, Florian Paul Schmidt, (Mon Feb 11, 3:23 pm)