Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism]

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Date: Monday, February 11, 2013 - 5:58 pm

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:07 AM, James Harkins wrote:

I don't see how that could be the case. XCode is still a totally free
IDE, and you get all the tools necessary to build all kinds of apps
except for iOS stuff. It's not like Windows where Microsoft has
threatened to pull everything but Metro from their free version of
MSVC and otherwise crippled the free versions.

>> Btw, there's a similar gender discrepancy in electronic music (as far as

Right, I think getting into technology is maybe discouraged for women,
which is a shame. Or, as a woman I met at a party put it, "I got into
videogames because I was too young to know girls weren't supposed to
be into it".

Of course, when I was a kid, I was just flat out into computer music.
I wanted to create, and with a computer, you could have an entire band
at your fingertips. The technical skill followed.

> We all win if

Right, and that's my main point. Of course, by definition, I think a
true "geek" will pursue something they like regardless of whether it
has society's stamp of approval.

What we need are more stubborn non-conformists.

I'd also like to put another point out there: I was at a super bowl
party at a bar a couple weeks ago, and the gender ratio was
surprisingly even. I don't know how many people on the list watch
stuff like this, but there was no woman on-screen who wasn't reduced
to a sex object. The entire program was aimed squarely at dudes.
However, this kind of sexism didn't discourage a relatively large
number of women from being interested in these sports. IMO, if you
look at mainstream society, it shoots down the idea that women aren't
interested in technology because of sexism in the workplace or even
necessarily school. There is something else going on, and it's
happening much earlier in peoples' development.

-Louis
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Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism], James Harkins, (Mon Feb 11, 1:41 am)
Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism], Louis, (Mon Feb 11, 3:17 am)
Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism], James Harkins, (Mon Feb 11, 2:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism], Louis Gorenfeld, (Mon Feb 11, 5:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism], Simon Wise, (Mon Feb 11, 6:05 am)
Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism], Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Feb 11, 2:47 am)
Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism], Bruno Gola, (Mon Feb 11, 2:53 am)
Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: Fuck your sexism], Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Feb 11, 3:57 am)
Re: [LAU] [Fwd: Re: **** your sexism], Chris Bannister, (Mon Feb 11, 10:18 am)
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