Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card

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To: Len Ovens <len@...>
Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 9:00 am

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oh, btw,
@lens

I don't use usb midi card, but I use one usb HID device (a joystick) and
two usb midi controller.
so all my 3 usb ins on my laptop will be occupied in a way or another. but
I don't think it can be problem as joystick and controllers don't need to
be high priority?

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Dj=E9ho Youn wrote:

> Thanks for the replies.

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oh, btw, @lensI don=
't use usb midi card, but I use one usb HID device (a joystick) and two=
usb midi controller.so all my 3 usb ins on=A0 my laptop will be =
occupied in a way or another. but I don't think it can be problem as jo=
ystick and controllers don't need to be high priority?

On Tue,=
Dec 17, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Dj=E9ho Youn <ydjeho@gmail.com> wro=
te:

Thanks for the replies.=
ok, if it's not the problem of my headphone out but =
the settings of the club, then it's all fine. there were=
two mixers. Main console and small Yamaha in between. so it's possible=
something went wrong...although it's still a mystery for me that my si=
gnal didn't hit the peak on this yamaha mixer, with the max input gain =
set.

maybe the mixer was broken?thanks for the info on =
art dual tube card. it seems like a good choice if I buy one anyway.@Len,one more question about this card, is it possible to=
have two stereo outs while using a one microphone in?

now I'm not sure that I'll buy it for solve the output level =
problem, but I probably want to integrate a microphone to use my voice to m=
odulate some signals.and in that case, it must work the mono mic =
input and stereo outs simultaneously.

one more thing is that I was using my old thinkpad on my live set=
I've mentioned, and now I have brand new ideapad.and I'v=
e noticed that ideapad headphone out is much softer than thinkpad, when I u=
se headphone to watch movies...etc.

so, it is not totally ignorable the output of each laptops. mayb=
e I just go ahead and buy this art card, in worst case it's not helping=
,I can maybe use it as preamp. as it has inserts that can be=
used as preamp direct output...as far as what I've understood on their=
signal diagram.

finally, nobody mentioned on mini-desktop compressor solutio=
n that I've suggested..http://www.thomann.de/pl/fmr_audio_rnc_17=
73.htm

somebody has things like that on their sets? do you think it=
can help?<=
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2=
013 at 2:42 AM, Len Ovens <len@ovenwerks.net> wrote:

On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Dj=E9ho Youn wrote=
:

thanks for all the answers.

Just in case... are you talking on stage volume or mains volume?

for those who gave advice with main mixer, 'sorry I wasn't that cle=
ar. but
mixer's input gain was max. and it was only half on the meter. then boo=
sting
mixer's channel/master only made my sound horribly distorted.

When it is distorted, what does it sound like with headphones? You need to =
know where the distortion is actually happening... are you turning your com=
puter to max and distorting in there? Are you using a DI box into the mic i=
nput? (try it) Or going into a line in... A DI box is more in line with the=
inputs of a cheaper mixer. Or an "instrument" input may work bet=
ter than line in.

this looks quite nice...as it's preamp AND soundcard...if soundcard doe=
sn't
make my signal louder, then I can use it as preamp..if I got it right.
http://www.thomann.de/pl/art_usb_dual_tube_pre.htm

does anyone used this with ubuntu 13.10 on modern laptops? a quick web
search shows that it *can* work but have no drivers. 'seems that some p=
eople
has troubles with it.

I have one and like it. It has been plug and play as it is USB1.1 compatibl=
e. It is 16bit at 44.1 or 48k or the s/pdif is 24bit (I use it as a pre for=
the s/pdif in my Delta sound card too. It has it's own power supply so=
the 5volt USB supply is not an issue. I like the sound better than any of =
the builtin audio cards. It works fine with both pulse and jack. (and ALSA =
too if it works with the others) I have used it since ubuntu 12.04. The 3.8=
kernels had problems with all USB cards. The one thing I found was I neede=
d to turn off the internal card in pulse and also the wifi. The wifi gave m=
e problems with all sound as it grabs too much time once a minute when turn=
ed on and once every 5 seconds turned off until rebooted with wifi turned o=
ff or unloading the wifi kernel module. Then I could get jack to run with -=
p64 on my netbook. (I also turn cron off BTW so that SW update stuff never =
tries to happen) As with all usb cards... it has to have it's own USB p=
ort, not shared internally or externally by a hub. I have to use only my ri=
ght side USB plug and put anything else in the left side. USB mice are pret=
ty bad at generating interupts. I use the rtirq script (lowlatency kernel) =
and set /etc/default/rtirq line with RTIRQ_NAME_LIST like:

RTIRQ_NAME_LIST=3D"usb3 rtc snd usb i8042"

Where my usb3 is the usb port on it's own irq (my right side plug). Thi=
s drops all the other usb ports to lower priority.

Of course the next question is... do you also use a USB midi card?

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[LAU] question related output level and sound card, Djého Youn, (Mon Dec 16, 4:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Dec 17, 12:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 5:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Dec 16, 5:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Djého Youn, (Mon Dec 16, 5:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Djého Youn, (Tue Dec 17, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Dec 17, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Dec 17, 10:43 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Robin Gareus, (Wed Dec 18, 12:46 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Dec 18, 2:30 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Djého Youn, (Tue Dec 17, 9:00 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 9:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 11:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 8:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Joe Hartley, (Mon Dec 16, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 9:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Gene Heskett, (Mon Dec 16, 9:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 11:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Dec 16, 6:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Joe Hartley, (Mon Dec 16, 6:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Dec 16, 6:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Joe Hartley, (Mon Dec 16, 6:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Dec 16, 4:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Clemens Ladisch, (Mon Dec 16, 4:56 pm)