Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card

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To: Len Ovens <len@...>
Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 8:57 am

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Thanks for the replies.

ok, if it's not the problem of my headphone out but the settings of the
club, then it's all fine.
there were two mixers. Main console and small Yamaha in between. so it's
possible something went wrong...although it's still a mystery for me that
my signal didn't hit the peak on this yamaha mixer, with the max input gain
set.
maybe the mixer was broken?

thanks for the info on art dual tube card. it seems like a good choice if I
buy one anyway.
@Len,
one more question about this card, is it possible to have two stereo outs
while using a one microphone in?
now I'm not sure that I'll buy it for solve the output level problem, but I
probably want to integrate a microphone to use my voice to modulate some
signals.
and in that case, it must work the mono mic input and stereo outs
simultaneously.

one more thing is that I was using my old thinkpad on my live set I've
mentioned, and now I have brand new ideapad.
and I've noticed that ideapad headphone out is much softer than thinkpad,
when I use headphone to watch movies...etc.
so, it is not totally ignorable the output of each laptops. maybe I just go
ahead and buy this art card, in worst case it's not helping,
I can maybe use it as preamp. as it has inserts that can be used as preamp
direct output...as far as what I've understood on their signal diagram.

finally, nobody mentioned on mini-desktop compressor solution that I've
suggested..
http://www.thomann.de/pl/fmr_audio_rnc_1773.htm

somebody has things like that on their sets? do you think it can help?

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Len Ovens wrote:

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Thanks for the replies.=
ok, if it's not the problem of my headphone out but =
the settings of the club, then it's all fine. there were=
two mixers. Main console and small Yamaha in between. so it's possible=
something went wrong...although it's still a mystery for me that my si=
gnal didn't hit the peak on this yamaha mixer, with the max input gain =
set.

maybe the mixer was broken?thanks for the info on =
art dual tube card. it seems like a good choice if I buy one anyway.@Len,one more question about this card, is it possible to=
have two stereo outs while using a one microphone in?

now I'm not sure that I'll buy it for solve the output level =
problem, but I probably want to integrate a microphone to use my voice to m=
odulate some signals.and in that case, it must work the mono mic =
input and stereo outs simultaneously.

one more thing is that I was using my old thinkpad on my live set=
I've mentioned, and now I have brand new ideapad.and I'v=
e noticed that ideapad headphone out is much softer than thinkpad, when I u=
se headphone to watch movies...etc.

so, it is not totally ignorable the output of each laptops. mayb=
e I just go ahead and buy this art card, in worst case it's not helping=
,I can maybe use it as preamp. as it has inserts that can be=
used as preamp direct output...as far as what I've understood on their=
signal diagram.

finally, nobody mentioned on mini-desktop compressor solutio=
n that I've suggested..http://www.thomann.de/pl/fmr_audio_rnc_17=
73.htm

somebody has things like that on their sets? do you think it=
can help?<=
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Len Ove=
ns <len@ovenwerks.net> wrote:

On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Dj=E9=
ho Youn wrote:

thanks for all the answers.

Just in case... are you talking on stage volume or mains volume?

for those who gave advice with main mixer, 'sorry I wasn't that cle=
ar. but
mixer's input gain was max. and it was only half on the meter. then boo=
sting
mixer's channel/master only made my sound horribly distorted.

When it is distorted, what does it sound like with headphones? You need to =
know where the distortion is actually happening... are you turning your com=
puter to max and distorting in there? Are you using a DI box into the mic i=
nput? (try it) Or going into a line in... A DI box is more in line with the=
inputs of a cheaper mixer. Or an "instrument" input may work bet=
ter than line in.

this looks quite nice...as it's preamp AND soundcard...if soundcard doe=
sn't
make my signal louder, then I can use it as preamp..if I got it right.
http://www.thomann.de/pl/art_usb_dual_tube_pre.htm

does anyone used this with ubuntu 13.10 on modern laptops? a quick web
search shows that it *can* work but have no drivers. 'seems that some p=
eople
has troubles with it.

I have one and like it. It has been plug and play as it is USB1.1 compatibl=
e. It is 16bit at 44.1 or 48k or the s/pdif is 24bit (I use it as a pre for=
the s/pdif in my Delta sound card too. It has it's own power supply so=
the 5volt USB supply is not an issue. I like the sound better than any of =
the builtin audio cards. It works fine with both pulse and jack. (and ALSA =
too if it works with the others) I have used it since ubuntu 12.04. The 3.8=
kernels had problems with all USB cards. The one thing I found was I neede=
d to turn off the internal card in pulse and also the wifi. The wifi gave m=
e problems with all sound as it grabs too much time once a minute when turn=
ed on and once every 5 seconds turned off until rebooted with wifi turned o=
ff or unloading the wifi kernel module. Then I could get jack to run with -=
p64 on my netbook. (I also turn cron off BTW so that SW update stuff never =
tries to happen) As with all usb cards... it has to have it's own USB p=
ort, not shared internally or externally by a hub. I have to use only my ri=
ght side USB plug and put anything else in the left side. USB mice are pret=
ty bad at generating interupts. I use the rtirq script (lowlatency kernel) =
and set /etc/default/rtirq line with RTIRQ_NAME_LIST like:

RTIRQ_NAME_LIST=3D"usb3 rtc snd usb i8042"

Where my usb3 is the usb port on it's own irq (my right side plug). Thi=
s drops all the other usb ports to lower priority.

Of course the next question is... do you also use a USB midi card?

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o YOUNhttp://jhyoun.wordpr=
ess.com/

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[LAU] question related output level and sound card, Djého Youn, (Mon Dec 16, 4:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Dec 17, 12:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 5:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Dec 16, 5:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Djého Youn, (Mon Dec 16, 5:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Djého Youn, (Tue Dec 17, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Tue Dec 17, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Tue Dec 17, 10:43 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Robin Gareus, (Wed Dec 18, 12:46 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Dec 18, 2:30 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Djého Youn, (Tue Dec 17, 9:00 am)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 9:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 11:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 8:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Joe Hartley, (Mon Dec 16, 6:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 9:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Gene Heskett, (Mon Dec 16, 9:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Dec 16, 11:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Dec 16, 6:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Joe Hartley, (Mon Dec 16, 6:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Dec 16, 6:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Joe Hartley, (Mon Dec 16, 6:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Dec 16, 4:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] question related output level and sound card, Clemens Ladisch, (Mon Dec 16, 4:56 pm)