Re: [LAU] another linux audio bashing thread on slashdot

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To: Barney Holmes <djbarney@...>
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Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 8:07 pm

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Barney, thanks for the review! It was very interesting to read, I rarely
get feedback on my music, especially that detailed ;)

Two things to comment. One - I am not a very good sound engineer so while I
do learn and my productions become better and better, overall I do need
services of a sound engineer or a tutor. I do get that sometimes from my
friend who is a sound engineer. He did specifically help me out with
Uranium, however, fixed version did not make it to the album since the eq
plugin we used crashes on project reopen and I had to release the tune as
it is.

Two. This album aimed for the 1990-1994 trance feel. That explains 303
without distortion. I actually like 303 without distortion. So I guess no
use comparing it to mixing techniques of today as I specifically listened
to 1990s trance music collections when preparing for the album.

Cheers and super thanks again for the review!

L.V.
On Oct 29, 2013 10:19 PM, "Barney Holmes" wrote:

> Quoting Louigi Verona :

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Barney, thanks for the review! It was very interesting to read, I rarely=
get feedback on my music, especially that detailed ;)
Two things to comment. One - I am not a very good sound engineer so whil=
e I do learn and my productions become better and better, overall I do need=
services of a sound engineer or a tutor. I do get that sometimes from my f=
riend who is a sound engineer. He did specifically help me out with Uranium=
, however, fixed version did not make it to the album since the eq plugin w=
e used crashes on project reopen and I had to release the tune as it is.

Two. This album aimed for the 1990-1994 trance feel. That explains 303 w=
ithout distortion. I actually like 303 without distortion. So I guess no us=
e comparing it to mixing techniques of today as I specifically listened to =
1990s trance music collections when preparing for the album.

Cheers and super thanks again for the review!
L.V.
On Oct 29, 2013 10:19 PM, "Barney Holmes&qu=
ot; <djbarney@djbarney.org&=
gt; wrote:
Quoting Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@gmail.com>:

Those guys should check out my album, this is exactly why I made it - to
promote Linux Audio and to show that you can do this kind of music on it:
http://www.louigiverona.ru/?pa=
ge=3Dprojects&s=3Dmusic&t=3Danother_reality

Hello. This is great ! Reminds me of my copy of "trancentral four a tr=
ip to goa. In the mix with Tsuyoshi Suzuki", Doof, Bass Chakra, etc ..=
.

http://www.discogs.com/Tsuyosh=
i-Suzuki-Trancentral-Four-A-Trip-To-Goa/master/45007

I notice music productions rarely contain logo's of services and/or app=
lications used to produce them, but films and video games do ... Nvidia and=
Avid logo's !

Here is my "review" of your album keeping Linux audio use in mind=
.

Note I was listening to this with an ear attuned to the production techniqu=
es and mastering heard on places like Proton Radio - http://protonradio.com/ - and recent mi=
xes such as The Konstrukt by Danny Oliveira a talented Miami/Brazilian DJ/P=
roducer - https://soundcloud.com/dnyo/sets/the-konstrukt

Elementary Waves ... problem with intro. not as high quality as later on in=
the track, but gets good ~3:30 minutes where you start using the sample.

A note here. 303 and Distortion ? Distortion filter can make a massive diff=
erence to the 303 sound. The 303 in Rebirth could do some REALLY strange th=
ings, don't know how that compares to a real 303 because I've never=
used one, but plan to get a 303 clone - http://greatsynthesizers.com/en/general-en/2013/03/bass-=
bot-tt-303-the-new-roland-tb-303/

Another reality. Nice use of synth !

Production in this one - this is gonna be honest, but please remember I&#39=
;m taking something in isolation here, and only this track. Percussion soun=
ds are too regimented (think of those bad MIDI demo's that come with so=
me software) and need to be made more dynamic, richer and randomised - see =
blog post - http://djbarney.wordpress.com/2013/10/27/generating-synthesi=
sed-drums-and-percussion-in-linux-using-yoshimi/

Incredible Things - hey breakbeat ! Again there's some fine detail and =
depth missing in the breakbeat. But this track sounds nicely upbeat with go=
od use of sample and composition.

Solar Traveller - hang on, this break beat is MUCH better. You should proba=
bly look into exactly why that is, and keep on doing it. Rolling !

Seaside - sorry got distracted when listening to this one. I'll go back=
to this later.

North Pole - I can hear this one being played on Proton Radio - http://protonradio.com/ - an=
d it would stand up nicely amongst all the other tracks.

Acid Astronautic - love the 303 in this, very spacey. Goa Trance. the drum/=
percussion could maybe be a bit more dynamic or randomised but that may jus=
t be my own personal listening tastes.

Uranium - this is a good rich sounding 303 line that starts this. This is t=
he best one. This should be first track on your album if you ask me. It rea=
lly sounds like it could have been produced on Mac, Windows or Linux, or a =
recording studio.

Was thinking some more about this. I think in a lot of track production the=
trick is the final mix down and mastering that gives everything that &quot=
;silky smooth" sound. It's a work of art like a painting, a well d=
esigned building or a cordon blue/Gourmet meal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gourmet

Thanks for your album ! This is exactly where I am heading at the moment. I=
want to produce quality dance music that will enhance people's life&#3=
9;s and help them. I started thinking of producing music to be much like st=
arting a good bakery. If it tastes and smells good then it will sell. If I =
start putting the Linux logo on my releases, well I don't know yet ;) Y=
ou have also inspired me to look at modular synths (Linux of course) for mo=
delling the 303 sounds, and building the PCF filter in Propellerhead Rebirt=
h which I've never seen anything else do. There are circuit diagrams av=
ailable for the 303 which can be worked from. I'll also check out Nekob=
ee :)

DJ Barney

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[LAU] another linux audio bashing thread on slashdot, michael noble, (Mon Oct 28, 9:49 am)
Re: [LAU] another linux audio bashing thread on slashdot, Barney Holmes, (Mon Oct 28, 12:24 pm)
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Re: [LAU] another linux audio bashing thread on slashdot, Louigi Verona, (Mon Oct 28, 8:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] another linux audio bashing thread on slashdot, Barney Holmes, (Tue Oct 29, 6:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] another linux audio bashing thread on slashdot, Louigi Verona, (Wed Oct 30, 8:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] another linux audio bashing thread on slashdot, Set Hallstrom, (Mon Oct 28, 7:41 pm)
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