Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav

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Date: Saturday, January 26, 2013 - 11:42 pm

Looks like I missed the party...

On Sat Jan 12 04:49:59 UTC 2013, Rustom Mody wrote:

> All that I know is that as an ordinary mostly-ignoramus user, Ive used

The "not developed anymore" and "deprecated" messages have caused much
grief for users and for FFmpeg. I can't count how many times the
situation had to be explained that FFmpeg is still very active, and
that buggy thing from the distro isn't actually ffmpeg (the program)
from FFmpeg (the project). I tried to get this changed, but the
end result was unsatisfactory.

Additionally, the fake "ffmpeg" transitional package adds to the
confusion. Calling something ffmpeg that isn't from FFmpeg is misleading
and fails the "likelihood of confusion" test. As an occasional mostly
non-coding contributor to FFmpeg, the time and work I invest into the
project are important to me. Naming something "ffmpeg" that is not
ffmpeg makes me feel like my work is being misrepresented. It also
demonstrated a lack of regard to the general users of these distros;
many of which have expressed feelings of being duped.

The good news is that this transitional bizarro "ffmpeg" package has
been dropped in Debian experimental which will hopefully make getting a
real ffmpeg package included more of a reality.

> Currently it appears that for using ffmpeg one needs to compile from source.

You have several options. You can compile from source. See How to
Compile FFmpeg on Ubuntu:
https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide

Use Jon Severinsson's FFmpeg PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~jon-severinsson/+archive/ffmpeg

Or use a Linux static build that you can simply download and execute:

FFmpeg Static Builds by Burek
http://ffmpeg.gusari.org/static/

FFmpeg Static Builds by Relaxed
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24633983/ffmpeg/index.html

> Since people are recommending use of ffmpeg am I to understand that the

You can do both. You can keep the repo version for other packages that
depend on it, and compile (or download a static build) your very own
brand new and customized ffmpeg for command-line usage.

> http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffmpeg-libav-situation.html seems to say that

Yes, that is basically the situation. FFmpeg merges many changes from
libav. libav generally ignores FFmpeg but will cherry-pick some stuff
on rare occasion, so it isn't very reciprocal.

Lou
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[LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rustom Mody, (Sat Jan 12, 4:50 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lou Logan, (Sat Jan 26, 11:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 12:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sat Jan 12, 9:40 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 4:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Brett McCoy, (Sun Jan 13, 9:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Mon Jan 14, 5:15 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Mon Jan 14, 2:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Jan 14, 8:17 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Gene Heskett, (Sun Jan 13, 5:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sat Jan 12, 4:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sat Jan 12, 6:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 9:14 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lorenzo Sutton, (Mon Jan 14, 11:03 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Jan 14, 11:47 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 1:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 3:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 3:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 3:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rob, (Sun Jan 13, 4:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 7:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 8:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, John Murphy, (Sun Jan 13, 10:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 10:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 3:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Jan 13, 10:00 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Fritz Meissner, (Sun Jan 13, 9:54 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Robin Gareus, (Sun Jan 13, 3:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lou Logan, (Sat Jan 26, 11:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rob Kudla, (Sun Jan 13, 3:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 10:03 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Gene Heskett, (Sun Jan 13, 3:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 8:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 8:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 3:17 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Jan 13, 9:26 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 12:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Jan 12, 10:04 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rustom Mody, (Sat Jan 12, 4:13 pm)