Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR

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Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 10:50 pm

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Len Ovens wrote:

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I tend to agree. I brought up the idea a while ago (but stalled on my own
ability to follow through) of a open-hardware design for audio interfaces

I realize the ADC and DAC quality is important. You can find many possible
24bit sigma-delta converter ICs, but it's difficult to compare between them
in the early component selection stage.
You need another chip to interface with ICs, aggregate the channels,
buffer, packetize, and transfer the data, for which I was looking at FPGAs.

Another idea is to build 24bit sigma-delta converters ON the FPGA with some
external components. I have a good feeling that arrays of ADCs and DACs
could be built more cheaply and with predictable quality using this method.

I think the only way forward to bring some sense to audio hardware
manufacturers is to have a decent alternative, accomplishing the same tasks
with a verifiable hardware/software bill.

Chuck

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Len Ovens <len@ovenwerks.net&=
gt; wrote:

I have been reading what I can on audio interfaces... I am thinking there
are very few good ones. I am thinking that some parts of the system are
vastly over priced like ADAT and MADI interfaces, both of which seem to
cost about 10X (at least) what they should cost... like how come a Gb NIC
is well under $100 and MADI PCI(e) card (100Mb) is $800? Even figuring in
scale that is way too much. ADAT (even slower... only 8 channels in one
direction at a time) which uses the same parts as s/pdif is $500 (and
up)... though I guess one could call that the price of keeping obsolete
interfaces around.... right in there with vintage gear :)<=
div>I tend to agree.=A0 I brought up the idea a while ago (b=
ut stalled on my own ability to follow through) of a open-hardware design f=
or audio interfaces
I realize the ADC and DAC quality is important.=A0 You can f=
ind many possible 24bit sigma-delta converter ICs, but it's difficult t=
o compare between them in the early component selection stage.You need =
another chip to interface with ICs, aggregate the channels, buffer, packeti=
ze, and transfer the data, for which I was looking at FPGAs.
Another idea is to build 24bit sigma-delta converters ON the=
FPGA with some external components.=A0 I have a good feeling that arrays o=
f ADCs and DACs could be built more cheaply and with predictable quality us=
ing this method.
I think the only way forward to bring some sense to audio ha=
rdware manufacturers is to have a decent alternative, accomplishing the sam=
e tasks with a verifiable hardware/software bill.Chuck

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[LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Wed Jan 23, 2:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Ralf Mardorf, (Wed Jan 23, 4:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Joe Hartley, (Wed Jan 23, 8:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Wed Jan 23, 10:10 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Florian Faber, (Thu Jan 24, 7:53 am)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Thu Jan 24, 9:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Jan 25, 1:43 am)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Fri Jan 25, 2:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Jan 25, 3:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sync and digital audio transport, Len Ovens, (Fri Feb 1, 2:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Jan 25, 7:15 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Sat Jan 26, 2:04 am)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Jan 26, 9:42 am)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Sat Jan 26, 3:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Jan 26, 3:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Sat Jan 26, 5:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Jan 25, 2:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Paul Davis, (Wed Jan 23, 11:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Charles Z Henry, (Thu Jan 24, 1:14 am)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Paul Davis, (Thu Jan 24, 2:31 am)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Thu Jan 24, 3:48 am)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Ralf Mardorf, (Thu Jan 24, 1:32 am)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Charles Z Henry, (Wed Jan 23, 10:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Fons Adriaensen, (Wed Jan 23, 4:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] Sample rate vs. SNR, Len Ovens, (Thu Jan 24, 4:26 am)