Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required [update]

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Date: Monday, January 21, 2013 - 3:02 pm

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Let me thank everybody who put in advice on where to go with this. I went t=
hrough a few cycles:
a. picked up an old ZIP100 parallel SCSI (20 euroes).b. found a utility cal=
led EPSLIN (with source) that writes to the floppy or HDD and cangenerate t=
he proprietary formats. This does not work with USB FDD since it has to use=
some kernel calls that control the programming of the uC765 floppy control=
lerchip. With USB attached floppies this chip=2C or similar=2C is actually =
on the externalfloppy so the kernel calls have no access.c. Found bipolaris=
ation.com who put the OS and factory disks on-line (have to thankthem too).=
d. Formatted a ZIP100 SCSI (24 euroes for a pair of disks)e. Copied the OS =
over.f. Linked it up to the ASR.g. Nothing. This is a pretty stupid ZIP dri=
ve - no options to terminate the SCSI or to select the device ID. Incompati=
ble. Will sell it again.....
h. Got back online and got hold of a Dell floppy (15 Euroes)i. Picked up so=
me floppy disks (4 euroes for a box of 10).j. Let's just make this one shor=
t - did not work in any of my 4 Dell laptops. It wasfrom the Latitude C ser=
ies.
k. Got down to CashConverters=2C picked up an old Compaq desktop for 60 Eur=
oes.l. Put together a liveboot USB (quicker than downloading a live DVD)m. =
Put a 32bit version of epslin on to the stick=2C put the ARS OS and the 8fa=
ctory disk images.n. Formatted onto a really floppy disk drive.o. copied th=
e OS to it.p. put the disk into the ASR10.
MAN=2C IT NOW BOOTS!
Working with floppies would normally be painful but until I can get hold of=
an even older ZIP drive or some other parallel SCSI device it will do - I a=
mnot going to be loading (m)any sounds=2C I just want the OS there spitting=
midi out into bristol for the PolyPressure stuff.
Again=2C thanks for all the advice.

Am going to put out a bristol 0.60.11 which just fixes some build erratausi=
ng patches contributed to the project=2C then some time later I want to get=
the CS-80 emulator working as a 0.70 or similar. I will add options tohave=
PolyPressure track ChannelPressure as I know there are not manykeyboards o=
ut there with poly capabilities (also from this thread).
Regards=2C nick
"at the end of the day its nil nil at half time=94.
Trevor Brooking

> Date: Sun=2C 6 Jan 2013 22:07:30 -1000

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Let m=
e thank everybody who put in advice on where to go with this. I went throug=
h&nbsp=3Ba few cycles:a. picked up an=
old ZIP100 parallel SCSI (20 euroes).b. found a utility calle=
d EPSLIN (with source) that writes to the floppy or HDD and cangenerate the proprietary formats. This does not work with USB FDD since it=
has to&nbsp=3Buse some kernel calls that control the programm=
ing of the uC765 floppy controllerchip. With USB attached flop=
pies this chip=2C or similar=2C is actually on the externalflo=
ppy so the kernel calls have no access.c. Found bipolarisation=
.com who put the OS and factory disks on-line (have to thankth=
em too).d. Formatted a ZIP=
100 SCSI (24 euroes for a pair of disks)e. Copied the OS over.f. Linked it up to the ASR.g. Nothing. This is a pretty stupid ZIP drive - no options to te=
rminate the SCSI or&nbsp=3Bto select the device ID. Incompatible. Will sell it again.....h. Got back online and got hold of a Dell floppy (15 Euroes)=
i. Picked up some floppy d=
isks (4 euroes for a box of 10).j. Let's just make this one short - did not work in any of my 4 Dell =
laptops. It wasfrom the La=
titude C series.k. Got down to CashConverters=2C=
picked up an old Compaq desktop for 60 Euroes.l. Put tog=
ether a liveboot USB (quicker than downloading a live DVD)m. Put=
a 32bit version of epslin on to the stick=2C put the ARS OS and the 8factory disk images.n. Formatted onto a really floppy disk=
drive.o. copied the OS to it.p. put the disk into th=
e ASR10.MAN=2C IT NOW BOOTS!=
Working with floppies would normally be painful but until I can get ho=
ld ofan even older ZIP drive or some other parallel SCSI device =
it will do - I amnot going to be loading (m)any sounds=2C I just=
want the OS there spittingmidi out into bristol for the PolyPre=
ssure stuff.Again=2C thanks for all the advice.Am going to put out a bristol 0.60.11 which just fixes some build err=
atausing patches contributed to the project=2C then some time la=
ter I want to&nbsp=3Bget the CS-80 emulator working as a 0.70 or=
similar. I will add options tohave PolyPressure track ChannelPr=
essure as I know there are not manykeyboards out there with poly=
capabilities (also from this thread).Regards=2C =
nick"at the end of the day its nil nil at half time=94.Trevor Brook=
ing&gt=3B Date: Sun=
=2C 6 Jan 2013 22:07:30 -1000&gt=3B From: gnome@hawaii.rr.com&gt=3B=
To: linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org&gt=3B Subject: Re: [LAU] Ens=
oniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required&gt=3B &gt=3B On 01/06/2013 01:24 AM=
=2C Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:&gt=3B &gt=3B On Sun=2C Jan 6=2C 2013 at=
11:28 AM=2C david wrote:&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B I think h=
is concern with USB floppy drives was that it might not be possible&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B to write non-standard floppy formats over USB=2C since som=
e of the&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B non-standard formats require changing setti=
ngs in the floppy drive&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B controller itself.&gt=3B=
&gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B Hmmm=2C that's clearly beyond my expertise :)&=
gt=3B &gt=3B Mine=2C too. I remember alternative disk-at-once ways of w=
riting 1.8 or &gt=3B 2MB to a 1.44MB floppy ... we thought that was a h=
eight of geekness=2C &gt=3B squeezing in those extra kilobytes ... gues=
s I'm old or something.&gt=3B &gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B I don't know how =
much they cost now.&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B &gt=3B There are $12 units=
=2C there are $180 units. Depends on the brand.&gt=3B &gt=3B Probab=
ly the same basic hardware beneath them all. I think the Sony &gt=3B ex=
ternal drive we have added about $100 to the total price of her old &gt=
=3B system. =3B-)&gt=3B &gt=3B -- &gt=3B David&gt=3B gnome@=
hawaii.rr.com&gt=3B authenticity=2C honesty=2C community&gt=3B http=
://clanjones.org/david/&gt=3B http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/&gt=3B _______________________________________________&gt=3B Linux-au=
dio-user mailing list&gt=3B Linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org&g=
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Re: [LAU] CAPS 0.9.3 and 0.4.6, Julien Claassen, (Sat Jan 5, 11:35 pm)
Re: [LAU] CAPS 0.9.3 and 0.4.6, Tim Goetze, (Mon Jan 7, 10:04 am)
Re: [LAU] CAPS 0.9.3 and 0.4.6, Dragan Noveski, (Sat Jan 5, 4:50 pm)
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Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Gene Heskett, (Sat Jan 5, 6:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Nick Copeland, (Sat Jan 5, 7:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Peter P., (Sun Jan 6, 12:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 6, 12:29 am)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, david, (Sun Jan 6, 11:22 am)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 6, 11:24 am)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, david, (Mon Jan 7, 8:07 am)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required [update], Nick Copeland, (Mon Jan 21, 3:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, david, (Sat Jan 5, 7:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Gene Heskett, (Sat Jan 5, 8:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Nick Copeland, (Sat Jan 5, 7:44 pm)
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Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Matt Henley, (Sat Jan 5, 8:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] Ensoniq ASR-10 Boot Disk Required, Nick Copeland, (Sat Jan 5, 8:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] CAPS 0.9.3 and 0.4.6, Julien Claassen, (Fri Jan 4, 10:40 pm)
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