Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav

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To: drew Roberts <zotz@...>
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Date: Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 3:17 pm

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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM, drew Roberts wrote:

> On Sunday 13 January 2013 08:33:39 Paul Davis wrote:

without copyright laws to allow an "intellectual property" owner to dictate
what the terms of using their creations are, the GPL would have no meaning,
because nothing could require reciprocal "openness". it would basically be
a BSD-license style situation.

copyright law is what requires someone using copylefted software to obey
the terms of GPL. no copyright law - no enforcement.

now, if you wish to be suitably idealist, you could suggest that we really
want copyright law to be replaced by copyleft, with similar powers of
enforcement. RMS did acknowledge early on that although this might be the
best possible arrangement (at least vis-a-vis software), that it was not
likely to happen in any foreseeable time.

>

there would also be no way to require anyone to honor my intentions that my
source code be made available to anyone that my software is distributed to.

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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM, drew Roberts <zo=
tz@100jamz.com
> wrote:
On S=
unday 13 January 2013 08:33:39 Paul Davis wrote:

ree
is founded in
le,

Hardly. The belief is that software should not be subject to co=
pyright. GPL is
the legal judo to try to get to that state where the law has not changed.

The only thing lost were software to be made not subject to copyright would=
be
the ability to require source code. I think I recall RMS writing to the
effect that without copyright, the benefit of hiding source would go away f=
or
most? software.without copyright laws =
to allow an "intellectual property" owner to dictate what the ter=
ms of using their creations are, the GPL would have no meaning, because not=
hing could require reciprocal "openness". it would basically be a=
BSD-license style situation.
copyright law is what requires someone using copylefted soft=
ware to obey the terms of GPL. no copyright law - no enforcement.now, if you wish to be suitably idealist, you could suggest that w=
e really want copyright law to be replaced by copyleft, with similar powers=
of enforcement. RMS did acknowledge early on that although this might be t=
he best possible arrangement (at least vis-a-vis software), that it was not=
likely to happen in any foreseeable time.
=A0

(The above really only holds where software is also not subject to patent
protection as well I think.)

In essence it depends on copyright to undo copyright effects. Without
copyright law, copyright law would have no negative effects to undo.there would also be no way to require anyone =
to honor my intentions that my source code be made available to anyone that=
my software is distributed to.
=A0

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[LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rustom Mody, (Sat Jan 12, 4:50 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lou Logan, (Sat Jan 26, 11:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 12:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sat Jan 12, 9:40 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 4:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Brett McCoy, (Sun Jan 13, 9:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Mon Jan 14, 5:15 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Mon Jan 14, 2:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Jan 14, 8:17 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Gene Heskett, (Sun Jan 13, 5:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sat Jan 12, 4:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sat Jan 12, 6:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 9:14 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lorenzo Sutton, (Mon Jan 14, 11:03 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Jan 14, 11:47 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 1:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 3:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 3:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 3:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rob, (Sun Jan 13, 4:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 7:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 8:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, John Murphy, (Sun Jan 13, 10:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 10:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 3:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Jan 13, 10:00 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Fritz Meissner, (Sun Jan 13, 9:54 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Robin Gareus, (Sun Jan 13, 3:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lou Logan, (Sat Jan 26, 11:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rob Kudla, (Sun Jan 13, 3:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 10:03 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Gene Heskett, (Sun Jan 13, 3:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 8:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 8:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 3:17 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Jan 13, 9:26 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 12:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Jan 12, 10:04 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rustom Mody, (Sat Jan 12, 4:13 pm)