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To: Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas <pedro.lopez.cabanillas@...>
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Date: Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 9:14 am

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In all three of these examples it wasn't the fault of the Debian
maintainers that these alternate versions get used, it was the authors of
the software switching from Free a software license such as the GPL to one
that the Debian social contract no longer considers free or trying to
enforce copyright on corporate logos or whatever.

I for one am glad that Debian has some standards here and is willing to
maintain them. If you happen not to like it and you are pro copyrights and
non-free software then you are free to use Ubuntu, Red Hat or another
distro that is more open to non-free or coryright software.

It's Debian's social contract that also stops stuff like the Amazon spyware
making its way into the Debian repos along with the fact its not run by a
corporation which definitely makes if different from Ubuntu and even more
so the Apple and Google app stores.

There are web pages dedicated to the underhand, often criminal tactics that
have been employed by MS and Apple over the decades yet I know of no such
list of nasties for Debian or any other community distro other than the
usual whines of disgruntled users which you get with any OS. Some of you
may not like Debian but they are certainly not in the same league as MS for
nastiness by any stretch of the imagination.

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas <
pedro.lopez.cabanillas@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Len Ovens wrote:

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In all three of these examples it wasn't the fault of the Debian mainta=
iners that these alternate versions get used, it was the authors of the sof=
tware switching from Free a software license such as the GPL to one that th=
e Debian social contract no longer considers free or trying to enforce copy=
right on corporate logos or whatever.
I for one am glad that Debian has some standards here and is willing to=
maintain them. If you happen not to like it and you are pro copyrights and=
non-free software then you are free to use Ubuntu, Red Hat or another dist=
ro that is more open to non-free or coryright software.
It's Debian's social contract that also stops stuff like the Am=
azon spyware making its way into the Debian repos along with the fact its n=
ot run by a corporation which definitely makes if different from Ubuntu and=
even more so the Apple and Google app stores.
There are web pages dedicated to the underhand, often criminal tactics =
that have been employed by MS and Apple over the decades yet I know of no s=
uch list of nasties for Debian or any other community distro other than the=
usual whines of disgruntled users which you get with any OS. Some of you m=
ay not like Debian but they are certainly not in the same league as MS for =
nastiness by any stretch of the imagination.
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Pedro Lopez=
-Cabanillas <pedro.lopez.cabanillas@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Len Ovens <len@ovenwerks.net> wrote:

On Sat, January 12, 2013 1:40 am, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:

>> http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffmpeg-libav-sit=
uation.html
seems to say

I knew about this one.

>

it
br>

Thanks for this info.

How many other ones are there?
One of my favourites: Mozilla Firefox vs. Iceweasel and friendsen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corpora=
tion_software_rebranded_by_the_Debian_project

I guess you want me to be more --verbose ...By "pattern&qu=
ot; I mean this mindset: "Our App Store (official distro repositor=
ies) is ours to allow and deny what is available and what not, and we

can arbitrarily throw your software out if we want, but unlike Apple we are=
not evil."The consequences are similar: users can't e=
asily access software they want, even if it is free software that the a=
uthors are willing to distribute gratis

and freely. The three given examples are not equal though. The worse case i=
s cdrecord, replaced by that old and unmaintained wodim fork in almost =
all distros. As a consequence, Linux users can't write BluRay discs=
, and may

suffer problems writing DVD discs as well. The issue with Firefox is more <=
br>important than trademarks and logos, because users may be exposed to sec=
urity risks fixed by Firefox which may not be available in Iceweasel wi=
th the same

speed. The solutions may be comparable as well: jailbreak your device, and =
download from Cydia or alternative stores... Regards,Pedro<=
br>
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[LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rustom Mody, (Sat Jan 12, 4:50 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lou Logan, (Sat Jan 26, 11:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 12:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sat Jan 12, 9:40 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 4:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Brett McCoy, (Sun Jan 13, 9:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Mon Jan 14, 5:15 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Mon Jan 14, 2:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Jan 14, 8:17 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Gene Heskett, (Sun Jan 13, 5:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sat Jan 12, 4:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sat Jan 12, 6:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 9:14 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lorenzo Sutton, (Mon Jan 14, 11:03 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Jan 14, 11:47 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 1:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 3:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 3:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 3:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rob, (Sun Jan 13, 4:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 7:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 8:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, John Murphy, (Sun Jan 13, 10:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 10:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 3:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Jan 13, 10:00 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Fritz Meissner, (Sun Jan 13, 9:54 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Robin Gareus, (Sun Jan 13, 3:55 pm)
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Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rob Kudla, (Sun Jan 13, 3:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 10:03 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Gene Heskett, (Sun Jan 13, 3:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 8:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 8:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 3:17 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Jan 13, 9:26 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 12:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Jan 12, 10:04 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rustom Mody, (Sat Jan 12, 4:13 pm)