Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav

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Date: Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 6:28 pm

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On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Len Ovens wrote:

>

One of my favourites: Mozilla Firefox vs. Iceweasel and friends
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_by_the_Debian_project

I guess you want me to be more --verbose ...

By "pattern" I mean this mindset: "Our App Store (official distro
repositories) is ours to allow and deny what is available and what not, and
we
can arbitrarily throw your software out if we want, but unlike Apple we are
not evil."

The consequences are similar: users can't easily access software they want,
even if it is free software that the authors are willing to distribute
gratis
and freely. The three given examples are not equal though. The worse case
is
cdrecord, replaced by that old and unmaintained wodim fork in almost all
distros. As a consequence, Linux users can't write BluRay discs, and may
suffer problems writing DVD discs as well. The issue with Firefox is more
important than trademarks and logos, because users may be exposed to
security
risks fixed by Firefox which may not be available in Iceweasel with the
same
speed. The solutions may be comparable as well: jailbreak your device, and
download from Cydia or alternative stores...

Regards,
Pedro

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On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Len Ovens <len=
@ovenwerks.net
> wrote:

On Sat, January 12, 2013 1:40 am, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:

>> http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffm=
peg-libav-situation.html
seems to say

I knew about this one.

>

it
br>

Thanks for this info.

How many other ones are there?
One of my favourites: Mozilla Firefox vs. Iceweasel and friends=
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_so=
ftware_rebranded_by_the_Debian_project

I guess you want me to be more --verbose ...By "pattern&qu=
ot; I mean this mindset: "Our App Store (official distro repositor=
ies) is ours to allow and deny what is available and what not, and we

can arbitrarily throw your software out if we want, but unlike Apple we are=
not evil."The consequences are similar: users can't e=
asily access software they want, even if it is free software that the a=
uthors are willing to distribute gratis

and freely. The three given examples are not equal though. The worse case i=
s cdrecord, replaced by that old and unmaintained wodim fork in almost =
all distros. As a consequence, Linux users can't write BluRay discs=
, and may

suffer problems writing DVD discs as well. The issue with Firefox is more <=
br>important than trademarks and logos, because users may be exposed to sec=
urity risks fixed by Firefox which may not be available in Iceweasel wi=
th the same

speed. The solutions may be comparable as well: jailbreak your device, and =
download from Cydia or alternative stores... Regards,Pedro<=
br>

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[LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rustom Mody, (Sat Jan 12, 4:50 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lou Logan, (Sat Jan 26, 11:42 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 12:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sat Jan 12, 9:40 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 4:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 5:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:54 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 9:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Brett McCoy, (Sun Jan 13, 9:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Mon Jan 14, 5:15 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Mon Jan 14, 2:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Jan 14, 8:17 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Gene Heskett, (Sun Jan 13, 5:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sun Jan 13, 5:52 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Len Ovens, (Sat Jan 12, 4:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sat Jan 12, 6:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 9:14 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lorenzo Sutton, (Mon Jan 14, 11:03 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Mon Jan 14, 11:47 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 1:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 3:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 3:17 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 3:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rob, (Sun Jan 13, 4:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 7:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 13, 8:23 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, John Murphy, (Sun Jan 13, 10:16 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, drew Roberts, (Sun Jan 13, 10:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 3:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 10:15 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Jan 13, 10:00 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Fritz Meissner, (Sun Jan 13, 9:54 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Robin Gareus, (Sun Jan 13, 3:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Lou Logan, (Sat Jan 26, 11:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rob Kudla, (Sun Jan 13, 3:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Dan MacDonald, (Sun Jan 13, 10:03 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Gene Heskett, (Sun Jan 13, 3:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 8:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Ralf Mardorf, (Sun Jan 13, 8:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 3:17 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas, (Sun Jan 13, 9:26 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Chris Bannister, (Sun Jan 13, 12:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Patrick Shirkey, (Sat Jan 12, 10:04 am)
Re: [LAU] ffmpeg or libav, Rustom Mody, (Sat Jan 12, 4:13 pm)