Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0

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Date: Friday, September 14, 2012 - 8:27 am

Hi,

I'll follow on the Dan's initial post with a few reflection, thanking
him for taking the the time and effort to report his impressions,
keeping in mind I also read the various follow-ups.

On 10/09/12 21:47, Dan MacDonald wrote:

[...]
I think one of the best design strategies for available icons and their
placement is the one in the Mozilla software (Firefox, Thunderbird etc.)
where you can add/remove/move/drag icons and set up your own icon
'palette' based on your personal likings and workflow: this is very
subjective, for example in Rosegarden I only ever click on certain
icons, only ever use context menus or keyboard short cuts for only
certain functions.
True. Sadly controller drawing is broken in Rosegarden ever since and
Muse's seems to be the one of best working ones at the moment.

[...]

Tempo ramps are really important when trying to achieve non-fixed-bpm midi.

[...]

This feature has always been long debated. Thing is, for some people
score is not just typesetting, especially in certain context having a
decent score feature in the sequencer (and Rosegarden is still my
personal favourite)is part of the compositional/creative process, at
least for certain music. Not to forget that Roesegarden's score can be
exported to lilypond where one can really concentrate on hi quality
typesetting. and of course a solid the piano roll (or 'matrix' editor)
can be as important.

One oddity I've seen in Muse's piano roll (vs Rosegarden) is that it
won't play notes when you add them or edit them (esp. change their
pitch, thus not providing auditory feedback and having you rely only on
the visual clue), I think this is a shortcoming especially when using
the piano roll as an 'instrument' (imagine composing at the piano and
only being able to *see* the keys and not hearing the sound they produce...)

Again a debated and debatable feature. There are some cases (not sure
how much they are corner) when working in Ardour that I'd like to be
able to edit a clip individually, for example to do envelope stuff
without fear that moving the clip will totally disrupt the envelope.

That said contrary to what seems most popular consensus I would prefer
sequencers not to have audio and DAWs not to have midi. I do love jack
transport and the modularity jack offers. That probably also comes from
the fact I use Pure Data for many projects (and one couldn't thing to
have a mega-daw with daw + sequencer + effects + dataflow ...).
Just now, I am working on a video sonification project and at times I
have Rosegarden + Ardour + Pure Data with various patch windows open +
the video window (xjadeo) all talking via jack - I can test 'synthy'
stuff by sending MIDI to Pd see how it fits with the video, if I want
fire up a synth (say yuoshimi), another patch... This would clearly not
work in a single-window-windows-style application.
(Will go into detail about this once the project is done)

Aren't you missing external software synths etc. (fluidsynth,
linuxsampler etc.)?
brrrr :)

[...]

A final remark on sequencing and midi editing. One think I really don't
like about any sequencer out there, and which clearly has been copied by
Cubase, is the idea of 'clip' for midi. While the concept makes sense in
audio DAWs I always found it limiting... It might be because my first
sequencer was Cakewalk Apprentice for DOS and it is the way the
subsequent Cakewalk family handled it: but no clips just the possibility
of unlimited midi feels much 'spacious' and 'creatively cosy'...

Lorenzo.
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[LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Dan MacDonald, (Mon Sep 10, 7:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Lorenzo Sutton, (Fri Sep 14, 8:27 am)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Dan MacDonald, (Sat Sep 15, 7:55 am)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Sep 15, 8:59 am)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Sep 14, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Sep 14, 9:09 am)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, renato, (Thu Sep 13, 4:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Hartmut Noack, (Thu Sep 13, 3:08 pm)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Ralf Mardorf, (Thu Sep 13, 7:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Dan MacDonald, (Thu Sep 13, 4:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Ralf Mardorf, (Thu Sep 13, 8:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Hartmut Noack, (Thu Sep 13, 7:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0, Paul Davis, (Thu Sep 13, 4:12 pm)