> On Sat, September 8, 2012 11:59 am, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
> > On 09/07/2012 01:31 PM, Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7 September 2012 at 6:14, "Len Ovens" wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, September 6, 2012 9:58 pm, Kevin Cosgrove wrote:
> >>>> On 6 September 2012 at 21:52, "Len Ovens" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, September 6, 2012 8:57 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 20:35 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> >>>>>>> I just had to look... and sure enough they do exist:
> >>>>>>>
http://ca.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Slot-Extension/PCI-Express-to-PCI-...
> >>>>
> >>>> Also,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815158165
> >>>> which has some customer reviews.
> >>>
> >>> The review looks bad for audio cards. I guess there is an
> >>> onboard regulator that does not allow enough current :P So
> >>> the onboard reg would have to be bypassed and an external one
> >>> added.
> >>
> >> I wonder if there's enough current to run the PCI card portion of
> >> the Delta 1010 setup? The data converters are in a break-out box
> >> in an audio rack. There isn't a whole lot on the PCI card, no
> >> fans, and I don't even think any heat sinks. That might indicate
> >> low power.
> >
> > There should be no problem with power. We are running tons of Delta66's
> > and I used to have a few 1010's as well. Easy cards to work with (so I'm
> > surprised at the problems you are having). The 1010's had problems with
> > some capacitors in the break-out box (in the power supply doubler or
> > quadrupler circuit) - replacing them fixed the issue.
>
> On any normal MB PCI slot there should be no problem as the regulator has
> to be sized to cover all the PCI slots as well as other MB stuff. In this
> case with a PCIe slot to PCI card adapter the reg may be sized for exactly
> whatever the PCI card current spec is (dumb as lots of cards, not just
> audio, assume there are some empty slots they can use the excess current
> capability from). What this really says (to me), is that the PCI standard
> does not provide enough current for all uses... or that these adapters do
> not provide current to spec... Or that some PCI cards really should have
> had an external power plug because they really draw more current than the
> MB is "supposed to" supply.
>
> All of that is not a help really, to someone who is having problems. The
> RME solution of having a digital PCI/PCIe card powered by the MB and and
> external box with pre amps and converters on it (powered externally), is
> probably the correct solution in this case. The PCI bus is not designed to
> supply power for much more than digital activities. It is like expecting
> to get good quality pre amp stuff and phantom from USB power... your mic
> probably sounds better with 48v than 24v.
>
> All this from the proud owner of a D66 :P 6 in and 4 out has proved (so
> far) to be more than I need. But then I have never had a drum kit to
> mic... or the more than 4 mics needed either. I have in the past used two
> mics to record vocals and guitar, but the comb filtering drove me nuts,
> one mic sounds better. So far I have not had the privilege of recording
> more than one person at a time. However, I now know what to buy when I get
> there... if PCIe is still around.