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On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 04:51:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

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> On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 01:43 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

> > Have you ever seen a "Commando", or any of those war type comics?

>

> No, I don't know "Commando" and after gooleing and watching all that

> Schwarzenegger pics I'm sure I don't know "those war type comics".

>

> > "Arrrgh!!!", "Grunt!", Rat a tat tat!!! "Kill the hun!!!" aren't

> > actually replacements for a book, like "Biggles", or "The Wind in the

> > Willows" etc.

>

> Comics are no replacements for carpets, bottles and automobiles. Comics

> don't replace anything, they once upon a time were something new and

> never intended as a replacement for something, especially not for books,

> since comics are books too.

Your original statement was about teachers rubbishing comics. My

response was, IMHO, the reason why. I vaguely remember kids reading

comics instead of books and thinking it was all right. Quite rightly,

the teachers didn't want that choice reflecting on their teaching

ability. In fact if you were caught with one, it was confiscated!
> > Comics or whatever they call them now may have changed, but so has the

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> > standard of English which is so freely (ab)used.

>

> English isn't the native spoken language all over the world, but the

> international language, so English has got many foreign influences.

True, there is American English, Chinese English, and even Indian

English (remember Benny Hill? :-)) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.engrish.com/

http://www.chillibreeze.com/articles/IsitIndianEnglishorEnglishinIndia.a...
respectively.
And, interesting is:

http://www.richard-seaman.com/USA/Life/Language/AmericanVersusNewZealand...
More and more of the words on the right (American words) are now in fact

being used more often as words on the left (New Zealand words).

(With a McDonalds on nearly every corner, there is no need to invade us.

:)
So yes the influence is far reaching, but that doesn't excuse the basic

rules of English -- grammar and syntax being abused; nouns being used as

verbs, verbs being used as nouns, incorrect use of plurals (i.e. not

understanding compound nouns.), thinking its ok to stick "ability" on the

end of any word, thinking its ok to stick "ization" on the end of any

word ... etc. etc. etc.
> If you need shoes size 12, you won't go to a shoemaker claiming that

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> everybody wants shoes of that size, so he won't sell this size anymore.

Mmmm, whenever there is a shoe sale why is that the only size

available? :-)
--

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people

who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the

oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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