Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio

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From: carmen <_@...>
To: <linux-audio-user@...>
Date: Friday, February 3, 2012 - 10:44 pm

"Linux is Linux, Android is blahblah blah ... never the twain should meet."

Maemo, a 'fork' of debian is closest "mobile" OS to normal linux + userspace shipped so far (by NOKIA, now abandoned for WindowsMobile)

despite 'mostly' open, it's a birds nest of interdependencies with the proprietary bits, eg blobs for hardware decoding of mp3 implemented as a gstreamer plugin, an old kernel you cant upgrade without losing significant 'fence drop' drivers and firmwares that arent in vanilla linux, forget about upgrading your pulseaudio so you can stream audio to a real set of speakers (the version it uses is too old to talk to the one in Debian/Ubuntu/Arch/Gentoo/Fedora). even if you install a debian chroot, apps will magically 'poof' since the xorg versions are about 3 years seperated and maybe its just me but i always find X unstable with mismatched client/server versions. your microSD cards are formatted on post-2.6.30 btrfs? good luck..

so theres enough annoyances just as a user who wants to compile/run 2 decades worth of linux audio software on this device due to it being a frozen-in-the-past fork mainly due to the driver situation, that when looking at Android, which threw out everything above the kernel in favor of a quasi-java, and doesnt even have a standard libc, let alone the likelihood of being able to run jackd, pulse, Xorg for apps written in GTK/QT/Tk/FLTK/WX...sure people using chroots to debian and Android VNC-clients to virtual-desktop X servers running without a physical display.. but thats too much tweaking and indirection and hacking around the real problem for my tastes

wel you can hopefully see why i'd never vote with my dollars for an Android device. i fully welcome you chasing after users and $2.99 app sales and struggling with a fence-drop NIMBY/NIH OS's limitations if that's you thing though
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[LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Feb 3, 7:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Paul Davis, (Fri Feb 3, 7:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Bill Gribble, (Fri Feb 3, 7:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Ralf Mardorf, (Fri Feb 3, 7:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Nick Copeland, (Fri Feb 3, 8:37 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, carmen, (Fri Feb 3, 10:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Paul Davis, (Fri Feb 3, 8:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Nick Copeland, (Fri Feb 3, 9:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 4, 10:22 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Ralf Mardorf, (Sat Feb 4, 8:49 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Fons Adriaensen, (Fri Feb 3, 10:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Paul Davis, (Sat Feb 4, 2:43 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Nick Copeland, (Sat Feb 4, 1:35 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Paul Davis, (Sat Feb 4, 3:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Hartmut Noack, (Sat Feb 4, 10:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Paul Davis, (Mon Feb 6, 11:22 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, James Morris, (Sun Feb 19, 2:59 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Brendan Jones, (Sun Feb 19, 3:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Renato, (Sun Feb 19, 3:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Fons Adriaensen, (Sun Feb 19, 5:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Renato, (Sun Feb 19, 6:36 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, S. Massy, (Mon Feb 20, 3:50 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Egor Sanin, (Mon Feb 20, 3:53 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Robin Gareus, (Sun Feb 19, 6:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Robin Gareus, (Sun Feb 19, 8:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Tue Feb 7, 12:04 pm)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Hartmut Noack, (Tue Feb 7, 8:47 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Renato, (Tue Feb 7, 12:04 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, , (Tue Feb 7, 12:10 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Paul Davis, (Tue Feb 7, 12:15 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Harry van Haaren, (Tue Feb 7, 12:22 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Thu Feb 9, 11:13 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Hartmut Noack, (Fri Feb 10, 9:33 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Fri Feb 10, 1:11 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, david, (Tue Feb 7, 8:01 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Burkhard Wölfel, (Thu Feb 9, 9:52 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Leigh Dyer, (Tue Feb 7, 12:43 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Paul Davis, (Tue Feb 7, 12:29 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Harry van Haaren, (Tue Feb 7, 1:01 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Paul Davis, (Tue Feb 7, 12:07 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Tue Feb 7, 12:44 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, carmen, (Tue Feb 7, 1:11 am)
Re: [LAU] iPad and Linux audio, Patrick Shirkey, (Tue Feb 7, 1:39 am)