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On 02/24/2012 02:29 AM, Robin Gareus wrote:

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> On 02/24/2012 06:19 AM, david wrote:

>> On 02/23/2012 07:03 PM, hermann wrote:

>>> Am Freitag, den 24.02.2012, 02:45 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

>>>>

>>>> Don't use a borked distro! If your distro don't provide the nv driver,

>>>> but replace it with an experimental driver, that knowingly isn't

>>>> working

>>>> for half of the NVIDIA graphics on the market, such as the nouveau

>>>> driver, than your distro is borked!

>>>

>>> No, then your distro is full GPL'ed. ;-)

>>

>> But still borked.

>

> The borked part is where you gave your money to NVidia.

Well, there's no real alternative unless you want an Intel-only setup.

My 2 laptops (which are Intel only) have their video problems, too,

because the FLOSS Intel drivers still have issues, too.
> What's even more borked is to blame the free software community for the

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> subsequent problems you experience.

I don't blame the free software community. But the free software

community is the one developing the drivers. I certainly can't blame the

vendor for them, since they had nothing to do with developing them.
>> I have a couple of motherboards here, one new in my

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>> desktop PC, with NVidia graphics. The Nouveau driver doesn't support the

>> old NVidia hardware, and Debian Sid no longer includes the NV driver

>> that DOES work with old hardware. The Nouveau driver barely supports the

>> NVidia in my newest motherboard.

>>

>> Sorry, I don't consider the Nouveau driver ready for primetime,

>

> Does anyone say it is? Respect the people who /fight/ for your freedom.

I do. They should just keep up the NV drivers that DO work until the

Nouveau drivers also work AND SUPPORT THE SAME HARDWARE, instead of

dropping NV completely.
>> they

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>> should still supply and continue developing the NV driver, or give up

>> the attempt at idealism and include the NVidia binary drivers.

>

> I'm afraid it's not that simple.

Yah, other distros have all kinds of complex problems keeping them

around. Not.
--

David

gnome@hawaii.rr.com

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