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Nettings hit most of it on the head, but I will add a few comments...
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:23 PM, J=F6rn Nettingsmeier <
> On 12/29/2012 09:55 PM, Len Ovens wrote:
- vocal three, female, classic trained.. hardly needs a mic at all but
still - it's nice to have a decent mike on a good voice, where it will make
Agreed. Especially if your other vocals are amplified, this can sound
somewhat unnatural unless you have some going through the PA sadly. It
really depends though.
> honestly, an omni mike won't help you. fons does have a point in saying
Yes, any use of an omni mic on stage really necessitates making sure that
your system is as flat response as possible, see my comments above.
> get a mixer with two semi-parametric mids, problem solved. very decent
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Nettings hit most of it on the head, but I will add a few =
comments...On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 6:23 PM, J=F6rn Nettingsmeier &=
On 12/29/2012 09:55 PM, Le=
n Ovens wrote:
=A0 - lead vocal (also da boss), Male, uses stand. sets the eq on the PA fo=
bass and highend up and midrange down (U shaped yuck)
problem identified :) solving it is beyond the realm of the technical and m=
ay necessitate the use of blunt instruments.Well partially beyond the range of the techni=
cal.=A0 Blunt Instruments first, then come back and redo it right.=A0 The S=
ystem EQ should be set so the sound coming out of the speakers and being he=
ard by the audience is as flat response as possible.=A0 Use channel EQ to s=
hape the sound of the singer's voice.=A0 The system EQ should be used v=
ery minimally if at all to shape the overall sound of the system other than=
to get it to a flat response.
=A0 - vocal three, female, classic trained.. hardly needs a mic at all but<=
has the Dixon I mentioned before... may as well be using a carbon pile
telephone handset.. lucky she doesn't need much reinforcement.
still - it's nice to have a decent mike on a good voice, where it will =
make a difference.Agreed.=A0 Especially if your other vocals are amplified, this can =
sound somewhat unnatural unless you have some going through the PA sadly.=
=A0 It really depends though.
i honestly don't know why a 30-band eq lets you boost stuff. 99% of use=
rs would be much better off having an eq that only provides attenuation.Used to agree wit=
h you, but honestly sometimes it is much easier to boost one or two bands t=
han to cut 28:)=A0 But yes you should always be cutting rather than boostin=
g as it means you are adding headroom before feedback, not taking away.
honestly, an omni mike won't help you. fons does have a point in saying=
that omni mikes have some advantages and could be put to good use outside =
the realm of classical recording, but until someone sorts out your lead sin=
ger problem, that's academic :)
Yes, any use of an omni mic on stage=
really necessitates making sure that your system is as flat response as po=
ssible, see my comments above.=A0
get a mixer with two semi-parametric mids, problem solved. very decent ones=
are available nowadays at very low cost. a year ago, i got the club i work=
for to invest in a new board (an a&h gl 2800 for about 3k euros plus t=
axes, which is really negligible for a professional venue), and the musicia=
ns have been more than happy with it. a board with that feature set and sou=
nd quality would have been high in the five digits 15 years ago. nowadays, =
there's really no need (and no excuse) to work with inadequate mixers i=
f you're serious about your music.
For smaller format mixers, look =
at the MixWizard series, also from Allen and Heath.=A0=
When I was in broadcast(80 to 85), the ENG guys had sennheiser shotguns.
They used them both camera mounted or hand held... the talking head could
hold the mic very low almost out of the picture.
shotguns are not useful for music stages. they do have better side rejectio=
n in theory, but at the cost of a very irregular off-axis response. the few=
times i used shotguns in the theatre, i found they would give me even less=
gain before feedback than a standard supercardioid, and required insane fi=
Depends actually.=A0 I can utilize sho=
tguns when I need to in a theater, but you are correct in that you have to =
be very careful.=A0 I have used them on stages for vocal pickup as well as =
tap pickups.=A0 But unless you KNOW what you are doing, these are the wrong=
mics to use, and are certainly the wrong mic to use in this case absolutel=