Re: [LAU] [LAD] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?

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Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 1:02 am

On Thu, October 11, 2012 11:11 am, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:

We can make as many landing pages with a specific call to action that we
want. We can also just link directly to the content and information or
software that we want to promote. What do you want to promote? Choose a
subject and make a landing page, a video, a tutorial, whatever you want.

>>>> It works pretty well and we wouldn't be where we are now without it.

Not always. In fact these days a significant amount of my hours are not
paid for when I invoice. that is just the state of the global economy.

>> How much income are you relinquishing by

If you are not participating because you see a potential ROI then you must
be in a position where you can waste your time.

>>> I'm not sure what exactly you mean by placing the word "competition"

What exactly are we loosing? We are growing the community of users,
developers and producers. People are making more money now than ever even
in this shithouse economy.

> Let's talk in absolute numbers. How many albums have been produced,

I couldn't say. How about asking how many people are making an income from
using Linux as a production platform? Compare that to 5 years ago and then
10 years?

> What about soundtracks for BF's open movies? How did it happen that

The Blender guys have their own motives. Ton obviously gets on with his
sound guys and that makes his work more enjoyable. Also they are literally
just down the road from each other. Blender runs on all platforms. They
make no claims to support Linux. In fact the majority of Blender users are
run M$. It's certainly a very powerful open source tool but it is not the
only way to produce video with linux. I don't know why more people aren't
using xjadeo, kdenlive or LiVES. Lots of people seem to be productive with
avsynth too.

>> You have a very closed view of the community if you think that a few

How many m$ and mac users are using their software to study the radio
frequency spectral domain throughout the universe or locate deep sea oil
and gas fields? How many medical researchers rely on Linux for advanced
cutting edge radio frequency measurement tools? How many businesses are
using Linux Audio Software for online streaming and broadcasting? How many
people are using Linux Audio tools to do high quality remastering and
audio restoration?

Making records to sell on itunes is a small part of the audio and
multimedia production industry.

> Yes, I know there are few studios that use Ardour. I've seen pictures

If they can make the movies on Linux then there is no reason they cannot
make the sound tracks too.

>> I've heard music on the BBC that was made with Linux Audio tools.

Listen to the BBC.

>> We have several audio and multimedia companies

Doesn't matter how many companies don't use Linux. It's the fact that
there are companies already making money from it that counts.

>>> The first question you get when you mention Ardour in a professional

These are the questions that come up for me from professional audio
companies when we discuss Ardour.

> OK, granted, the VST question is the usual one. But not the others :)

How many people do you think actually own MOTU Devices? They target
professional industry not consumer hobbyists. 4000 professional
installations would be a reasonable share of the global market for their
products in the AV production industry. Nothing to be sniffed at. MOTU is
not Behringer. They target high end users not the entire mass market.

if each device brings in $1000 profit that is $4million in profit. Again
nothing to be ashamed of. What is Motu's market capital anyway? Do they
make more than $10 million a year in profit?

Lets say a company is aiming for $1 million in profit at $100 per sale.
That requires 10,000 users. Going by your stats above that means just by
targeting the market for firewire devices on Linux (a fraction of the
actual market base) they can potentially get to $400,000 in profit.

>> They also loose out on the association with Linux as a high end solution

Lets read the numbers again and see if that is really such a small market.
A market with very little promotion and a small core of dedicated
individuals and businesses that have taken it this far already. A market
with an expanding community and burgeoning global awareness. A market
that can be built on a platform of the highest quality tools and software.
A market with a lot of room for growth. A platform that has been embraced
by the Film, Gaming, Scientific and Research industries.

What makes the Audio industry so special that it can ignore the direction
that other industries are moving?

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Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
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Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Patrick Shirkey, (Wed Oct 10, 6:03 pm)
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Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Oct 10, 7:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Florian Paul Schmidt, (Thu Oct 11, 8:38 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Florian Paul Schmidt, (Thu Oct 11, 8:41 am)
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Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Chris Bannister, (Sat Oct 20, 6:56 pm)
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