Re: [LAU] [LAD] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?

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Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 12:12 am

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

>> Let me put it this way. I'm a musician who was drawn by some magic

Because so far I've seen no trace of mentioning an interaction with visitors.

Hence let me repeat my question: what's my next step?

>>> It works pretty well and we wouldn't be where we are now without it.

Oh, we were getting along so well, and now you are using clumsy
analogies. There is no doubt that the Linux kernel is doing well on
servers and mobile devices. It has strong niches. What's the strong
niche for Linux audio in terms of actual installations?

>> Everything comes at a cost, one way or another.

Of course. Don't *you* get a paycheck for a work that needs time to be done?

> How much income are you relinquishing by

A certain amount.

> Perhaps you are actually investing your

Anything's possible.

>> I'm not sure what exactly you mean by placing the word "competition"

...and losing? :)

Let's talk in absolute numbers. How many albums have been produced,
mixed and mastered entirely with free software in the last 12 months?
How many of them are available via iTunes or even Magnatune?

What about soundtracks for BF's open movies? How did it happen that
neither Jan Morgenstern nor Joram Letwory are using Linux?

> You have a very closed view of the community if you think that a few

I'm not sure how you came at this conclusion, so I couldn't possibly
comment on that.

>> Jeez, Patrick, it's not about us believing or not. It's about being

Stop right there :)

I'm not questioning the availability of the records per se. Once
again, I'm talking about _professional-grade_ recordings. Any kid who
got himself Mixbus can export directly to soundcloud. Good for him.
Will it stand a test by Bob Katz? Think again.

Yes, I know there are few studios that use Ardour. I've seen pictures
at http://ardour.org/node/3248 (incidentally, what ever happened of
MIS and Ron Parker?). How do I find those studios? How do I listen to
what they do with free software?

Paraphrasing Linus, talk is cheap, play me a record :)

> Almost all major motion pictures are made with Linux these days.

How does it relate to Linux audio?

> I've heard music on the BBC that was made with Linux Audio tools.

How do I verify that?

> We have several audio and multimedia companies

Several against just how many?

>> The first question you get when you mention Ardour in a professional

-q. Will any of my VSTs run? a. it depends -- thanks, but no, thanks.

> - q. What are Pauls rates for custom work and is he available ? a. I'll

Judging by the questions, you spoke to 3 persons, neither of which
cared about support for his hardware :)

OK, granted, the VST question is the usual one. But not the others :)

>> Probably I will never know what made MOTU so angry about Linux, but

Oh, LOL. Conspiracy theories, how I missed you.

> Of course this

You know, when I published the interview with FFADO and ALSA folks, I
actually did a bit of research and plotted a chart from publicly
available stats. Since you obviously have no idea, I suggest you just
look at the numbers yourself:

http://www.ffado.org/?q=usage/overtime

Ye gods, over last 8 years (or so) MOTU lost whole 4K users out of
those millions? What a horrible, unspeakable waste! :)

> They also loose out on the association with Linux as a high end solution

In other words, they lose on the association with a platform that a
handful of people consider to be a platform for producing music
professionally. Which is what their primary business is. Ts ts.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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