Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?

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To: Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@...>
Cc: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user@...>, Linux Audio Developers <linux-audio-dev@...>
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 10:10 am

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Hi LV!

Nice and interesting write up of your experiences and opinions there. I
agree with most all of it except:

"Saving projects is still a huge problem. In addition to LADISH we do now
have NSM, the Non-Session Manager, which seems like a workable solution, so
we'll see how this works out in the long run.
LMMS seems to be the only game in town for those who want to save full
projects by just clicking "Save" and not having to install and configure a
"session manager". I must admit, by the way, that I have not followed LMMS
recently."

Saving projects is only tricky if you use the modular approach versus
instrument plugins hence this isn't really a problem for A3 and qtractor.
Aside from LMMS, MusE and sunvox have a few integrated instruments so they
don't have this problem either (if you stick to the built-in synths for
Muse only - sunvox doesn't handle plugins) and pretty soon MusE should gain
native VST support to further improve this situation.

Your article has reminded me of my one and only JACK complaint/ feature
(yep - just one!!!) request which I filed a couple of years ago now but is
still to be addressed:

http://trac.jackaudio.org/ticket/202

I'm surprised others haven't been asking for more descriptive 'device busy'
error messages from JACK as for many years this has been my only issue with
JACK - it doesn't start and you don't know what process is preventing it
doing so. Quite often I'll not bother doing the detective work and just
reboot but that is hardly ideal so I think this small addition would make
JACK (and qjackctl) and as a result Linux audio much more user friendly.

Your thoughts Mr Davis?

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Louigi Verona wrote:

> Hey fellas!

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Hi LV!Nice and interesting write up of your experiences=
and opinions there. I agree with most all of it except:"Saving projects is still a huge problem. In addition to LADISH=
we do now have NSM, the Non-Session Manager, which seems like a workable s=
olution, so we'll see how this works out in the long run.
LMMS seems to be the only game in town for those who want to save full proj=
ects by just clicking "Save" and not having to install and config=
ure a "session manager". I must admit, by the way, that I have no=
t followed LMMS recently."
Saving projects is only tricky if you use the modular a=
pproach versus instrument plugins hence this isn't really a problem for=
A3 and qtractor. Aside from LMMS, MusE and sunvox have a few integrated in=
struments so they don't have this problem either (if you stick to the b=
uilt-in synths for Muse only - sunvox doesn't handle plugins) and prett=
y soon MusE should gain native VST support to further improve this situatio=
n.
Your article has reminded me of my one and only JACK co=
mplaint/ feature (yep - just one!!!) request which I filed a couple of year=
s ago now but is still to be addressed:http://trac.jackaudio.org/ticket/202=

I'm surprised others haven't been asking for mo=
re descriptive 'device busy' error messages from JACK as for many y=
ears this has been my only issue with JACK - it doesn't start and you d=
on't know what process is preventing it doing so. Quite often I'll =
not bother doing the detective work and just reboot but that is hardly idea=
l so I think this small addition would make JACK (and qjackctl) and as a re=
sult Linux audio much more user friendly.
Your thoughts Mr Davis?On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@gma=
il.com
> wrote:
Hey fellas!Would like to present an =
article I've written. Mostly wrote it to start a conversation and hear =
what others have to say on the subject.
http://www.louigiv=
erona.ru/?page=3Dprojects&s=3Dwritings&t=3Dlinux&a=3Dlinux_prog=
ress

You can comment here or on my textboard (which does not require registr=
ation).-- Louigi Veronahttp://www.louigiverona.ru/

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[LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Louigi Verona, (Wed Oct 10, 8:24 am)
Re: [LAU] [LAD] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forw..., M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, (Wed Oct 10, 8:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] [LAD] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forw..., rosea.grammostola, (Wed Oct 10, 6:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, James Mckernon, (Wed Oct 10, 5:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Florian Paul Schmidt, (Thu Oct 11, 9:16 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Lorenzo Sutton, (Wed Oct 10, 10:26 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Dan MacDonald, (Wed Oct 10, 10:49 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Clemens Ladisch, (Wed Oct 10, 12:13 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Dan MacDonald, (Wed Oct 10, 10:10 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Chris Bannister, (Sat Oct 20, 6:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Dan MacDonald, (Wed Oct 10, 10:53 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Louigi Verona, (Wed Oct 10, 10:13 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, rosea.grammostola, (Wed Oct 10, 10:34 am)
Re: [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?, Dan MacDonald, (Wed Oct 10, 10:30 am)