Re: [LAU] New music

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To: Jostein Chr. Andersen <jostein@...>
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Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 8:18 am

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Hi Jostein,
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 21:30 +0100, Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:

> Hi Gerald,

Thanx. I wasn't away, I read the list nearly everyday, but I just post
when I have something to show.

>

That's what I've heard elsewhere. This is the first time I mixed drums,
and I sat there for days and fiddling around.
Our drummers opinion was that the snare shouldn't ring to much, since he
likes it tight. I think a bit of ring is good so I'll try out your tip.

> *Pan the HH more to one of the sides and let the clean guitar

Which freq range do you mean by low mid?

> *The vocals need (more) compression, the reverb varies from to

Does it have to much bass? Which center freq?

> *Toms? More body, more attack, more HPF.

Here again our drummers opinion, but I'll use your tip. Again center
freq of HPF? And Range since the body of the toms goes down to 300-400
Hz ?

>

Yep, timing is our problem. None of us is good that, least of all me
(singer+guitarist). But since it's just a demo for getting gigs, I think
it's ok for now.

>

I was trying to get it sound like chili peppers Dani California, of
which I have the impression that it's loud in the mids.
But I think you're right. Do you have a reference song I could listen
to?

>

I feel delighted, thanx. We have more to show in the coming weeks, once
this mix is ready I'll use it as a template.
Thank you a lot for the detailed tips, I'll try to deploy them.
Regards,
Gerald

>

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Hi Jostein,
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 21:30 +0100, Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:

Hi Gerald,

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On Tuesday 24 January 2012 14.58.38 Gerald Mwangi wrote:
...

Glad that you're back again. I have heard your music before and you have
a wonderful song - just as I expected. Some of the the chords and
harmonies are also very interesting, I just love it.

Thanx. I wasn't away, I read the list nearly everyday, but I just post when I have something to show.

IMO, it's not easy to know what to think because I don't which conditions
the recording has. Is it a demo? Do the drums have a single track for
each item, did you record it quick and hasty and so on. So I just say
what I think assuming that each part of the drums have it's own track
plus two OH mics. What I say here might be wrong anyway, I don't know
your EQs, HPF's, compressors and so on, so just see this as vague
suggestions and blurry starting points:

*The snare drum is to load, you better lover it and add 3-6 dB
somewhere around 600 - 700 Hz (more of the ringing body).
  And give it a little bit reverb (careful) too.

That's what I've heard elsewhere. This is the first time I mixed drums, and I sat there for days and fiddling around.
Our drummers opinion was that the snare shouldn't ring to much, since he likes it tight. I think a bit of ring is good so I'll try out your tip.

*Pan the HH more to one of the sides and let the clean guitar
be on the opposite one.
*Give the kick more deep end and accentuate the click. Give
the bass more low mid (and the kick lesser on the same place).
You might also want more fret sound (more mid+) from the
bass, that will probably improve the overall sound. Right now,
  hard kicks are destroying the bass some places.

Which freq range do you mean by low mid?

*The vocals need (more) compression, the reverb varies from to
load to to quiet, maybe more compression on the voice is
enough to tame it.
*Use an (or more) HPF for the organ.

Does it have to much bass? Which center freq?

*Toms? More body, more attack, more HPF.

Here again our drummers  opinion, but I'll use your tip. Again center freq of HPF? And Range since the body of the toms goes down to 300-400 Hz ?

About the performance:
It sounds to me like you have timing problems - mostly in the clean
guitar, but it might be editable in the mix (or rerecordable ? :-) ). The
bass and guitars do also sound out of tune some places - and around
2:48, it's bad. When everything is in better synch, then the flow will be
much better.

Yep, timing is our problem. None of us is good that, least of all me (singer+guitarist). But since it's just a demo for getting gigs, I think it's ok for now.

In a nut shell: Make space in the lower mids to much happens there, lower
your snare amplitude but let it's personality be clearer. More defined mid
in the bass, lesser deep bass. Deeper and clickier kick. Broader stereo
image. Edit away timing problems and out of tune issues. Let's hope that
no new bad things shows up after that :-)

I was trying to get it sound like chili peppers Dani California, of which I have the impression that it's loud in the mids.
But I think you're right. Do you have a reference song I could listen to?

It sounds like the recordings itself are good, and as I said: The song
itself is great. I consider my self as a fan of your music and I'm
looking forward to hear more. :-)

I feel delighted, thanx. We have more to show in the coming weeks, once this mix is ready I'll use it as a template.
Thank you a lot for the detailed tips, I'll try to deploy them.
Regards,
Gerald

Jostein

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[LAU] New music, Gerald Mwangi, (Tue Jan 24, 1:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] New music, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Tue Jan 24, 8:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] New music, Gerald Mwangi, (Wed Jan 25, 8:18 am)
Re: [LAU] New music, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Wed Jan 25, 6:21 pm)
Re: [LAU] New music, Al Thompson, (Wed Jan 25, 6:34 pm)
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Re: [LAU] New music, Al Thompson, (Fri Jan 27, 1:45 am)
Re: [LAU] New music, Goran Mekic, (Tue Jan 24, 3:32 pm)
Re: [LAU] New music, Jason Jones, (Tue Jan 24, 6:48 pm)
Re: [LAU] New music, Gerald Mwangi, (Tue Jan 24, 7:04 pm)