Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement

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Date: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 12:24 pm

On 01/15/2012 02:29 PM, hermann wrote:

> Not so long ago, for most people linux was == open source, that gone

this argument works both ways: for professional users, all that counts
is the availability of the tools required for a particular job. if i can
get a closed-source tool (rather than none at all), that enables me to
_stick_ with linux and not have to run a brown-paper-bag headless
windows box in my basement that needlessly heats up my wine storage and
irritates my router.

i'm pretty sure there is nothing to fear from choice, ever.

it's interesting to observe the (minor) frictions that arise when people
who are coming from a proprietary operating system (who have certain
user experience expectations and some degree of ignorance of how the
open source community works) suddenly adopt open-source tools. i
remember the tricks paul used to pretty much drive ardour-osx users into
IRC at gunpoint - without these tricks, mac users tended to double-click
on an installer, run into a problem, walk away complaining and were
never seen again... this is probably also the reason why there's isn't a
windows version of ardour (yet) - you got to backport the software, but
you also got to forward-port user attitude, which can be a lot less
tractable.

in the bitwig case, the problem is much simpler: a proprietary tool
enters an open-source ecosystem. it removes one more hurdle for people
with a certain workflow to adopt (or stay with) linux.
those who don't like it don't use it. the only friction point arises
when those who don't like it tell others why they shouldn't be using it.
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[LAU] bitwig announcement, Renato, (Fri Jan 13, 4:18 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sat Jan 14, 7:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Nils, (Sun Jan 15, 1:35 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Jan 15, 12:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Renato, (Sun Jan 15, 5:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 1:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Rustom Mody, (Fri Jan 20, 9:03 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, gene heskett, (Fri Jan 20, 5:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Atte André Jensen, (Fri Jan 20, 7:05 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, david, (Fri Jan 20, 7:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, gene heskett, (Fri Jan 20, 7:38 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, hermann, (Fri Jan 20, 9:26 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Hartmut Noack, (Mon Jan 16, 12:03 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jeremy Jongepier, (Sun Jan 15, 2:02 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Folderol, (Sun Jan 15, 5:11 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 2:20 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Mon Jan 16, 12:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jeremy Jongepier, (Mon Jan 16, 3:01 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, thijs van severen, (Mon Jan 16, 3:21 pm)
[LAU] [OT] Re: bitwig announcement, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Jan 16, 12:51 pm)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Re: bitwig announcement, Jeremy Jongepier, (Mon Jan 16, 2:55 pm)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Re: bitwig announcement, david, (Tue Jan 17, 9:02 am)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Re: bitwig announcement, Hartmut Noack, (Tue Jan 17, 10:06 am)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Re: bitwig announcement, James Morris, (Tue Jan 17, 10:14 am)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Re: bitwig announcement, Rui Nuno Capela, (Mon Jan 16, 4:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Re: bitwig announcement, Lorenzo Sutton, (Mon Jan 16, 1:49 pm)
Re: [LAU] [OT] Re: bitwig announcement, gene heskett, (Mon Jan 16, 4:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, hermann, (Sun Jan 15, 1:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Mon Jan 16, 12:24 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Harry van Haaren, (Tue Jan 17, 12:52 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, hermann, (Mon Jan 16, 1:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Mon Jan 16, 1:47 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 2:07 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, James Morris, (Sun Jan 15, 2:33 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 2:43 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, James Morris, (Sun Jan 15, 4:03 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 4:28 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, James Morris, (Sun Jan 15, 5:14 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 5:39 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, James Morris, (Sun Jan 15, 5:58 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 6:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alan Russell, (Sun Jan 15, 6:27 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Thomas Vecchione, (Sun Jan 15, 10:25 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alan Russell, (Sun Jan 15, 11:12 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Thomas Vecchione, (Mon Jan 16, 1:30 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Louigi Verona, (Mon Jan 16, 8:48 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, david, (Tue Jan 17, 8:57 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Tue Jan 17, 1:09 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Atte André Jensen, (Wed Jan 18, 7:37 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, david, (Wed Jan 18, 8:37 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, david, (Wed Jan 18, 6:52 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Wed Jan 18, 9:44 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, david, (Wed Jan 18, 6:26 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, thijs van severen, (Mon Jan 16, 9:10 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 15, 11:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Fons Adriaensen, (Mon Jan 16, 10:10 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jörn Nettingsmeier, (Mon Jan 16, 12:40 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Mon Jan 16, 11:43 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Mon Jan 16, 3:00 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Jostein Chr. Andersen, (Mon Jan 16, 7:34 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, James Stone, (Mon Jan 16, 10:22 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, James Stone, (Mon Jan 16, 10:28 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, hermann, (Mon Jan 16, 10:49 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Dave Phillips, (Mon Jan 16, 10:57 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Paul Davis, (Sun Jan 15, 8:50 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, James Morris, (Sun Jan 15, 4:46 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, hermann, (Sun Jan 15, 2:29 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 2:44 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Dave Phillips, (Sun Jan 15, 3:56 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Alexandre Prokoudine, (Sun Jan 15, 4:06 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Renato, (Sat Jan 14, 10:45 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Sebastian Moors, (Sun Jan 15, 8:19 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, David Baron, (Mon Jan 16, 9:09 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, david, (Tue Jan 17, 8:44 am)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Ross Hamblin, (Sun Jan 15, 11:30 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Dave Phillips, (Fri Jan 13, 11:31 pm)
Re: [LAU] bitwig announcement, Louigi Verona, (Fri Jan 13, 7:14 pm)